tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post2044635649624888095..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Jersey Child Abuse Committee of Inquiry A Fake, Partial, Incompetent?voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger128125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-33316519925096881712016-06-09T03:05:23.744+01:002016-06-09T03:05:23.744+01:00Saw this just now . . . . Sorry.
No I have no ref...Saw this just now . . . . Sorry.<br /><br />No I have no reference - I was asking the COI whether they had sufficient resources to do the job properly. It turned out they hadn't and had to ask for a lot more money. <br /><br />And the research which I asked for has not been done to my knowledge.<br /><br />Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-49909828782415774592014-08-04T10:47:26.757+01:002014-08-04T10:47:26.757+01:00Did Daniel get any media coverage of this? I didn&...Did Daniel get any media coverage of this? I didn't see anyNick Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05360924308743466075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-21085180335033632582014-07-27T01:16:48.598+01:002014-07-27T01:16:48.598+01:00I heard a little while back that there is a big ho...I heard a little while back that there is a big house in the Wellington road area that was fitted up with manacles, chambers and electric shutters to close off areas of the house against outside intrusions where the rich and connected used to have perversion parties with victims procured for them by others. I was told this house, and the structural evidence is still there - presumably the parties have stopped. Anyone know about this and the name of the very rich person who owned it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-15664886064447672812014-07-26T22:56:34.079+01:002014-07-26T22:56:34.079+01:00It came up in all the discussions the stakeholder ...It came up in all the discussions the stakeholder group had with the COI. I read the protocols and peppered my copy with question marks.<br /><br />In the group, Stuart was raising massive issues with the Protocols, including this one. So I left him to lead on that side.<br /><br />When / if the COI reply to my questions, and if the answers are satisfactory, (which I doubt they will be, judging from their extraordinary judgement on my submission to them about the Terms of Reference) then I will send them my questions about the protocols!<br />Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-24355963176423558752014-07-26T22:39:05.841+01:002014-07-26T22:39:05.841+01:00Do you have a reference for the important research...Do you have a reference for the important research you mention?Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-90766303583452192242014-07-26T09:21:56.684+01:002014-07-26T09:21:56.684+01:00Page 20 of sharp report is missingPage 20 of sharp report is missingPhilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-17232872695425089112014-07-26T09:07:25.582+01:002014-07-26T09:07:25.582+01:00The Sharp Report can be downloaded from HERE.The Sharp Report can be downloaded from <a href="http://www.no2abuse.com/index.php/news/comments/the-sharp-report-jersey-abuse-download/" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-1890356482180893062014-07-26T08:53:43.345+01:002014-07-26T08:53:43.345+01:00Threatened to be "placed in a mental hospital...Threatened to be "placed in a mental hospital if he repeated the allegations." .....checkmate sunshine! best keep stum.<br /><br />People in orphanages are viewed as society's most vulnerable. Actually inmates at mental hospitals are even more vulnerable and beyond outside help.<br />Mental patients can be locked up and drugged for decades and no one will ever believe their outlandish or depraved "fantasies" because they are diagnosed as .....well ...mad.<br />Damaged and labelled the ultimate "unreliable witness" by the system that was supposed to protect and heal.<br /><br />Jimmy Savile knew this which is why he persuaded Thatcher's government to put him in charge of Broadmoor!<br /><br />Lucky that Jersey's children/adult mental health services were always so much better and our politicians are so much more astute and trustworthy; God-fearing and church-going even???<br /><br />And Jersey had and still has a press/media which would hunt down the great and the good at the merest hint of a transgression. LOL<br /><br />Dream on suckers and island sycophants.<br />Check out the Vic College Sharp Report ...The 'education' your children deserve?<br /><br /><br />.........the link to the Sharp Report has been mysteriously erased (in Mar2013?) from<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_College,_Jersey<br /><br />Where is it now available?The disappearing Sharp Reportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-64286057074417066902014-07-25T18:16:43.136+01:002014-07-25T18:16:43.136+01:00http://www.news.com.au/world/politicians-linked-to...http://www.news.com.au/world/politicians-linked-to-horror-childrens-home/story-e6frfkyi-1111115704573<br /><br />"Wilfred Krichefski, a senator in Jersey's Government and chairman of several committees on the British Channel island, was said to have regularly visited Haut de la Garenne to abuse boys until his death in 1974.<br />Living members of the island's establishment, who cannot be named for legal reasons, have also been identified as suspects.<br />One former resident has claimed he was repeatedly raped at the children's home by Krichefski in 1962 and 1963.<br />The man, now in his late 50s and living in the West Midlands of England, said that every month, he and another boy would be taken into a back room at the home and abused by two men.<br />The former resident said he would be woken by a care worker with the words: "There is someone here to see you".<br />The only person he told about the abuse was a psychiatrist who told him that he would be placed in a mental hospital if he repeated the allegations."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-8374239655602138132014-07-25T18:10:20.556+01:002014-07-25T18:10:20.556+01:00I read that Wilfred Krichefski (OBE) was a in the ...I read that Wilfred Krichefski (OBE) was a in the Brotherhood of Jersey Freemasonry<br />Does anyone have info on this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-24315323341441291312014-07-25T17:10:35.529+01:002014-07-25T17:10:35.529+01:00And don't forget, Wilfred Krichefski died in D...And don't forget, Wilfred Krichefski died in December 1974, and was still an important person in Jersey politics; so this time-frame would most certainly have fitted in with Paisnel's outburst in 1971 that he "attended orgies with important people".<br /><br />And Krichefski was a most important person, not only in Jersey politics but also with ties to Crown, establishment, UK politicians and the mega-rich!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-28796881839933303672014-07-25T16:29:52.571+01:002014-07-25T16:29:52.571+01:00One wonders if Edward Paisnel was referring to Wil...One wonders if Edward Paisnel was referring to Wilfred Krichefski when he "claimed to be a member of a secret religious cult on Jersey and to have attended orgies with important people" ?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-11252813477411150122014-07-25T16:04:03.350+01:002014-07-25T16:04:03.350+01:00http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/category/hau...http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/category/haut-de-la-garenne-jersey/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-40679472607151744732014-07-25T15:37:24.786+01:002014-07-25T15:37:24.786+01:00Over 40 years ago now but builder and businessman ...Over 40 years ago now but builder and businessman Edward Paisnel was a visitor and "father Christmas" volunteer for HDLG<br /><br />According to this press cutting (Daily Mail, 3rd September 1971) from his trial <br />SEE<br />http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/2014/03/01/black-magic-story-in-isle-sex-trial-03-09-71/<br /><br />Police officers found a "black magic" alter in the secret cellar at his home. Also there were books on the occult & on hypnotism and medical texts.<br /><br />Paisnel claimed to be a member of a secret religious cult on Jersey and to have attended orgies with important people<br /><br /><br />Paisnel continued to offend for over a decade because a contact in the Honoraries let him off having his fingerprints taken in the island wide sweep<br /><br />In the spotlightonabuse comments section a researcher "Troyhand" has google-referenced and transcribed a selection of relevant global press cuttings (snippets below):<br /><br /><br />The Sydney Morning Herald – Dec 1, 1971<br />"The court was told that Paisnel modelled himself on the infamous Gilles de Rais, a fifteenth century Marshal of France known in history as Bluebeard, reviled for his ritual murder, torture [& rape] and sacrifice to the Devil of children lured to his castle."<br />"Bluebeard" info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais<br /><br /><br />[Scotich? or Glasgow?] Evening Times – Nov 29, 1971<br />"Sir Robert had told them that they must not be influenced by the “revolting details” of the case....<br />.......Paisnel did not give evidence.<br />Nurse Miss Florence Hawkins and Paisnel’s parents claimed Paisnel was with them during two of the attacks – 1970 and 1966.<br /><br />The defence claimed more than one man was responsible for the attacks because of varying descriptions of the attacker."<br /><br />http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=mCQ-AAAAIBAJ&sjid=jkoMAAAAIBAJ&pg=6421%2C4368989<br /><br /><br />I wonder if the transcript of the Paisnel case is available and un-redacted????<br />Probably will not reveal much. Paisnel kept stum after his initial outbursts but he had links to HDLG and may have been left carrying the can for a wider ring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-4960438555762996732014-07-25T15:08:28.571+01:002014-07-25T15:08:28.571+01:00I think the perfect answer lies on the comment abo...I think the perfect answer lies on the comment above yours Anonymous.<br /><br />However in response - no, this is not Leveson, but it is an Inquiry and Inquiries depend and rely a lot on evidence. Strangely media reporting on Haut de la Garenne was mentioned in the Leveson Inquiry, so why on earth should the local media not be held to account for their reporting, past, present and future. This is also evidence of how the public were often very misled, and abuse victims made to feel like second class citizens, and all part of a bigger picture.Jill Graciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12827733777338858628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-71087474340437347902014-07-25T11:55:02.221+01:002014-07-25T11:55:02.221+01:00This blog has become the forum for meaningful disc...This blog has become the forum for meaningful discussion on the most important matters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-35161671565402694462014-07-25T10:49:05.738+01:002014-07-25T10:49:05.738+01:00One of the best ways of ensuing that an inquiry do...One of the best ways of ensuing that an inquiry does it's job is to ensure that their work will be externally scrutinised. It concentrates the mind and the conscience.<br /><br />Please sign this petition to ensure the Jersey inquiry do the best possible job, not the worst that they think they can get away with, as is beginning to look likely with their non-consultation, non-answers and evaporating ToRs<br /><br />www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/theresa-may-home-secretary-include-jersey-channel-islands-in-the-historic-csa-inquiryClick HERE to sign petitionhttps://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/theresa-may-home-secretary-include-jersey-channel-islands-in-the-historic-csa-inquirynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-14767709610249171452014-07-25T10:10:22.200+01:002014-07-25T10:10:22.200+01:00There seems to be a very strong Islington - Jersey...There seems to be a very strong Islington - Jersey link here.<br /><br />What is most chilling, according to John Hemming MP, Islington County Council have refused to check their children's records for missing children!<br /><br />Richard Watts MP (Labour Member for Tollington Ward) is the head of Islington County Council, perhaps readers may like to ask Councillor Watts why Islington has refused to check its children's records!<br /><br />Richard Watts MP<br /><br />Correspondence address: <br /><br />Town Hall <br />Upper Street<br />London<br />N1 2UD <br /><br />Bus. phone: 020 7527 4717 (PA) <br /><br />Email: richard.watts@islington.gov.uk <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-32815791443310424392014-07-25T08:58:16.624+01:002014-07-25T08:58:16.624+01:00UK is as sickening as the Jersey situation:
Eile...UK is as sickening as the Jersey situation: <br /><br />Eileen Fairweather<br />www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10177681/The-truth-behind-the-child-abuse-cover-ups.html<br /><br />How do they get away with it?<br />In Jersey we see how, in microcosm, and in a clarity which enables the more nebulous mainland situation to be better understood. <br /><br />At least the "selected" boys at Vic college got shown pornography, taken sailing and drugged with alcohol with probably only minor use of threats - better than being beaten shitless, tied up, or half drowned which have been amongst the preferred methods by some at places like HDLG and some mainland homes that have been infiltrated by paedophiles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-64128488084160903972014-07-25T08:22:24.747+01:002014-07-25T08:22:24.747+01:00"The JCLA have virtually every newspaper cutt..."The JCLA have virtually every newspaper cutting from the outset of Operation Rectangle and have submitted all to the Inquiry Team. Having pored over them again (and there are literally hundreds) the appalling 'journalism' by the JEP will hopefully show the Inquiry Team just what anybody fighting for the truth and justice was up against."<br /><br />Why is the COI being used as an ombudsmen for the Press?<br />This is not Leveson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-20540225682153989582014-07-25T03:02:29.445+01:002014-07-25T03:02:29.445+01:00The JEP and the rest of the State Media are probab...The JEP and the rest of the State Media are probably blowing a gasket over being held to account publicly. They've had a monopoly on disseminating information to the masses, and misused their role by becoming propaganda mouthpieces. For the first time, they have little control over what evidence is allowed to see light of day, and they are not handling their loss of power gracefully. The evidenced bloggers are used to being demonized by the state media, so that's hardly anything new. <br /><br />ElleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-11496467399585984042014-07-24T22:12:52.875+01:002014-07-24T22:12:52.875+01:00Some very interesting investigative posts proving ...Some very interesting investigative posts proving a link between Krichevski and Jeune,I am sure that Jeune was involved in bringing Jimmy Saville over to Jersey to visit the youth club in St Helier,I was told this by a person who attended the club,the Rothchilds, Paedophilia,dirty offshore finance,Ted Heath,and Jimmy Saville.What a colourful forty square miles we live in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-39107052542306386032014-07-24T21:39:34.421+01:002014-07-24T21:39:34.421+01:00You need to learn to ignore.You need to learn to ignore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-6508630488139345002014-07-24T21:29:15.637+01:002014-07-24T21:29:15.637+01:00I think “blow a gasket” might be a bit strong. I m...I think “blow a gasket” might be a bit strong. I merely made a few observations and expressed an opinion.<br /><br />Do I think the JEP will be loving all this? I should imagine so as any publicity it can get to help its dwindling sales should be greatly appreciated.<br />voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-77080721420100747162014-07-24T21:24:43.186+01:002014-07-24T21:24:43.186+01:00Not being funny, but do you not think the JEP will...Not being funny, but do you not think the JEP will be loving all this?<br /><br />They write an article about bloggers and tweets and you guys and gals blow a gasket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com