tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post4776756161281392593..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Leaks, trust and Credibility.voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-17293461710367419102011-06-26T21:28:30.424+01:002011-06-26T21:28:30.424+01:00I would like to say keep up the great work VFC &am...I would like to say keep up the great work VFC & Rico. <br />I am just writing this to air my views about our Media, they are a joke as we all know.<br />I read this today on BBC Jersey Online- end sentence was:-<br />One member of staff who worked at Haut de la Garenne has been convicted as part of the investigation.<br />Well I went ballistic reading this & I have made a formal complaint to them over this, as I stated to them we are sick to death of their cowboy media. So I am waiting to see what they come back with. Some Billy Bull S*** no doubt. Like I said to them it is not a just talking about a lost cat it is people lifes that get affected by media like this & we have suffered & had enough of this Government & Media.<br />Janejanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-29955416682439638402010-10-28T20:01:15.323+01:002010-10-28T20:01:15.323+01:00Andy Baker was interviewed by Wiltshire. but barin...Andy Baker was interviewed by Wiltshire. but baring in mind he said to Andrew Lewis, "the investigation was a "shining example" of how to conduct an enquiry of that nature." <br /><br />One should imagine that much of what Andy Baker had to say didn't suit the agenda of certain people so more than likely ended up in that filthy great redaction machine AND WILL NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-50415598266195488752010-10-27T20:59:16.901+01:002010-10-27T20:59:16.901+01:00"Vfc did wilts interview Andy Baker? if not w..."Vfc did wilts interview Andy Baker? if not why not...."<br /><br />I'm not sure right now but will try and find out. No point in e-mailing Ian Le Marquand though as he doesn't reply to them.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-75178134288222350222010-10-27T20:01:00.159+01:002010-10-27T20:01:00.159+01:00what with pensions for warcop cost of napier cost ...what with pensions for warcop cost of napier cost of wiltshire report and then TLS on channel news saying GST gooing up and he is going to reign in expenses the guy needs have a word with himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-1727765371701990352010-10-27T19:55:00.073+01:002010-10-27T19:55:00.073+01:00There is only one person who really knows the trut...There is only one person who really knows the truth about the police handling of the historic child abuse investigation that is Andy Baker from ACPO.<br /><br />How this chat has not been tracked down and interviewed is amazing. He would know exactly what went on and how the police handled certain issues.<br /><br />The wilts 'tor' was ACPO/NPIA based. Vfc did wilts interview Andy Baker? if not why not....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-11009244206988612732010-10-27T19:14:42.964+01:002010-10-27T19:14:42.964+01:00Let's be NICE TO LENNY letter.Let's be <a href="http://therightofreply.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">NICE TO LENNY</a> letter.Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-79429784473495169022010-10-27T19:14:39.134+01:002010-10-27T19:14:39.134+01:00"Can someone please tell me if warcup new bow..."Can someone please tell me if warcup new bowron before the interview process began"<br /><br />This was taken from <a href="http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2010/10/chosen-one.html" rel="nofollow">"The Chosen one"</a><br /><br />“So Napier was delayed until after August 2010, but why that date?? Because that was the date by which WARCUP would have achieved two years service in the Force and thereby qualified for a public sector pension based on his final salary (that of course being the Chief Officers Salary due to his Acting role.) But before resigning he had already lined up his chosen successor in collusion with the Minister for Home Affairs. That person was Mike Bowron, Commissioner of the City of London Police.”<br /><br />So if that information is correct, and we have every reason to believe that it is, then the answer to your question would have to be "yes"....but stand to be corrected.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-36364923533902662592010-10-27T18:26:49.606+01:002010-10-27T18:26:49.606+01:00Can someone please tell me if warcup new bowron be...Can someone please tell me if warcup new bowron before the interview process beganAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-59845277511893869402010-10-27T17:58:38.803+01:002010-10-27T17:58:38.803+01:00Is ILM the full shilling?Is ILM the full shilling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-57196391346413745732010-10-27T17:04:12.800+01:002010-10-27T17:04:12.800+01:00Sadly the police are used as fodder and lackies to...Sadly the police are used as fodder and lackies to the ruling elite, and what more proof of being cannon fodder than Graham Power and Lennie Harper, what more proof of being lackies than Gradwell and Weirdop. <br /><br />The mainland also suffers this. <br /><br /><br />word verification 'gutter'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-15661674652060198042010-10-27T16:43:45.318+01:002010-10-27T16:43:45.318+01:00Thank you Graham for that post.
I do not find it i...Thank you Graham for that post.<br />I do not find it in the slightest bit amusing I find it more than disgusting and extremely worryingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-90705033899075792692010-10-27T16:25:29.116+01:002010-10-27T16:25:29.116+01:00Also taken from "briefing note number 5"...Also taken from "briefing note number 5".<br /><br />"If his own claims on live radio are to be believed then he is shortly about to engage in a public diatribe in which he will denounce the actions of the writer who is still, at the time of writing, Chief Officer of the States Police. I am of course the same person who has been subject to a suspension and disciplinary investigation lasting 21 months and costing Jersey taxpayers, of which I am one, an admitted sum of well over one million pounds, and a suspected real sum of considerably more. <br /><br />All proceedings are now abandoned and there will be no charges and no hearing. By anyone’s fair reckoning that is an acquittal. It can be nothing else. All proceedings are abandoned. I am convicted of nothing and therefore innocent of everything. Everyone understands that. Everyone that is apart from the Minister for Home Affairs (the person charged with promoting justice in the island no less.) He apparently thinks that his abandonment of the case (and a lot of our money as well) now entitles him to put on a road-show intended to demonstrate that I was guilty all along, it was just that he was not clever enough or fast enough to do anything about it (should he be admitting that??) <br />But it does not stop there. <br /><br />According to his own reported comments his presentation will entertain no nonsense about any defence case in respect of the allegations. We will hear the case for the prosecution, but anything of value to the defence will be edited out or banned. It is also claimed that the Minister will express his confidence that had the matter gone to a disciplinary hearing then I would have been found guilty on all counts. <br /><br />In that respect I have to confess that he is probably right. I say this because according to my latest information the Minister intended to appoint himself as both prosecutor and judge in the case. While such an arrangement (or something very similar) is not entirely unknown in the Jersey context, it might not accord with what the man or woman in the street considers fair, although it must be doubted whether the Minister would consider that important.<br /><br />And if, reader, you consider this all very amusing and distant from your own concerns, then remember what has been said by many from the very beginning of this saga. If they can do this to me and get away with it...............think what they could do to you. Then it might not be so funny."<br /><br />Graham Power qpmvoiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-82087515009235200042010-10-27T16:03:43.714+01:002010-10-27T16:03:43.714+01:00Ole Razzy.
In "briefing note 5" the for...Ole Razzy.<br /><br />In "briefing note 5" the former Chief Police Officer Graham Power QPM had, among many other things, this to say about Senator Ian (P9-26) Le Marquand.<br /><br />"So what happened to Justice?<br /><br />It has been said that a Fascist is a Liberal who has just been mugged. I am inclined to wonder whether an autocrat is a Magistrate who has been appointed Minister for Home Affairs.<br /><br />There are two principles of Justice which most people know and respect. One is that a person who is not proved guilty is presumed innocent. Another is that judgement should not be reached until both sides of the case have been heard. <br /><br />As the Island’s Magistrate, Ian le Marquand was generally respected for upholding both principles. So what happened to him once he was “anointed” as the Minister for Home Affairs?"<br /><br />Now ILM has found a man guilty, who should be presumed innocent, on nothing more than a few allegations, that Graham Power has been denied the right to defend in a fair and impartial hearing.<br /><br />The names "Ian Le Marquand" and "justice" should never again appear in the same sentence.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-74749771946843260502010-10-27T15:48:22.618+01:002010-10-27T15:48:22.618+01:00I think he did have it before he stepped into the ...I think he did have it before he stepped into the political arena. Cetainly that was my experience. I witnessed his honesty and decency first hand and in many ways I have him to thank for the way I re-balanced my life. But....<br /><br />It's a shame that the political zietgeist puts it's shoulder to a cause based on a 'popularity defence' at all costs whilst trashing those values so carefully nurtured over many years. <br /><br />And I feel the same about TLS. I know his family of old. Great family. He has a lovely daughter that went to Beaulieu and I know for a stone cold fact that he donates large sums of money to really good charities anonymously. <br /><br />So what happens when elected? Is being part of the 'jersey way' just a bridge too far? Is public life just not what it was meant to be? A denigration of ones personal values into that of a utilitarian 'groupthink'? <br /><br />It's all very odd and I find myself increasingly more distanced from it all. Keep going VFC, you ask the right questions, uncomfortable as they may be.Ole Razzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-22073537307506143552010-10-27T15:04:27.026+01:002010-10-27T15:04:27.026+01:00Mac.
Thanks for the link. If you had heard ILM on...Mac.<br /><br />Thanks for the link. If you had heard ILM on the "Hometime" programme on Monday on BBC Radio Jersey, just after the 5 o'clock news, then you would realise just how out of control this bloke is.<br /><br />He really needs reigning in by his puppet masters because he is going completely off the rails.<br /><br />Not only has he lost any sense of justice that he MIGHT have had at one time, but now he thinks it's OK to go on a live radio show and make aalegations about his fellow colleagues, the bloke has completely lost the plot.........if he ever had it!!!voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-36717267065773966682010-10-27T14:34:10.078+01:002010-10-27T14:34:10.078+01:00A poster commented on ILM slagging off Graham Powe...A poster commented on ILM slagging off Graham Power and Lenny Harper on BBC radio Guernsey<br /><br />Here's the link it's at approx 1:31<br /><br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00bnvw0/Jim_Cathcart_26_10_2010/" rel="nofollow">BBC Guernsey ILM</a>machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17696365384453325709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-49249527223983895552010-10-27T12:28:36.927+01:002010-10-27T12:28:36.927+01:00Chanting on a train?
If Mr Bowron is that honoura...Chanting on a train?<br /><br />If Mr Bowron is that honourable, we will have about 10 policemen left in Jersey by the end of January....Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-87075973954344225032010-10-27T11:33:47.112+01:002010-10-27T11:33:47.112+01:00http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5272268/Police-officer-facing-sack-for-chanting-obscene-football-song.html<br /><br /><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5272268/Police-officer-facing-sack-for-chanting-obscene-football-song.html" rel="nofollow">Police officer facing sack for chanting obscene football song... </a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-78245768817913753202010-10-27T08:00:23.551+01:002010-10-27T08:00:23.551+01:00To the commenter that left this.
"If you'...To the commenter that left this.<br /><br />"If you're in the SOJP force, any bad behaviour will not be tolerated by the incoming new boss.<br /><br />Police officer facing sack for chanting obscene football song... <br /><br />here"<br /><br />The link doesn't work.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-77008584301338891632010-10-26T22:37:39.252+01:002010-10-26T22:37:39.252+01:00Anonymous at 26 October 2010 17:58 said "Le M...Anonymous at 26 October 2010 17:58 said "Le Marquand has cemented his place in history as a Collaborator," and I would propose the consistent use of that term "collaborator" for all those who have earned that same place with him in future history books. They just don't ever see it coming, do they!<br /><br />Elle<br /><br />p.s. word verification: subratAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-57605212316680155082010-10-26T20:49:32.411+01:002010-10-26T20:49:32.411+01:00If you're in the SOJP force, any bad behaviour...If you're in the SOJP force, any bad behaviour will not be tolerated by the incoming new boss.<br /><br />Police officer facing sack for chanting obscene football song... <br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">here</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-68428985652530352332010-10-26T20:35:19.436+01:002010-10-26T20:35:19.436+01:00"However, we have also identified some areas ..."However, we have also identified some areas where we need to tighten up our processes and modify our ways of working." <br /><br />Bloddy hell, he'd better not let Terry Le Sueur or Ian Le Marquand see that. They will use it as "justification" to suspend him if he doesn't play ball!voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-36529963557382096452010-10-26T20:30:28.180+01:002010-10-26T20:30:28.180+01:00Mike Bowron learns from mistakes:-
Today, the int...Mike Bowron learns from mistakes:-<br /><br />Today, the internal review made seven recommendations.<br /><br />Among them were that "when dealing with regulatory bodies (such as the British Horseracing Authority for example) as part of an investigation, the force should ensure there is a formal framework in place to govern the relationship".<br /><br />Commander Patrick Rice, who led the review, said: "We have been thorough in our efforts to identify exactly what we could have done better - or differently.<br /><br />"We got a lot of things right, including the overall direction and control of the investigation. However, we have also identified some areas where we need to tighten up our processes and modify our ways of working." <br /><br />-------<br /><br />The City of London police commissioner, Mike Bowron, said: " Most of the learning has already been put into practice. We will now be working to implement the remainder without delay."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/16/ukcrime.horseracing" rel="nofollow">extract from here</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-53954424441387276332010-10-26T20:00:44.440+01:002010-10-26T20:00:44.440+01:00Past statements (might be October 2010) by Mike Bo...Past statements (might be October 2010) by Mike Bowron, gives us an idea why he was chosen by Ogley and Co:<br /><br />“You need to be as comfortable at a reception with a glass of champagne in your hand as you are dealing with an exercise in counter-terrorism,” says Mike Bowron, Commissioner of the City of London Police.<br /><br />and...<br /><br />he says. “After 7/7 [in July 2005, 52 people died in four explosions around London] it was important to keep investor confidence high and the markets stable. I’m proud that we contributed to that.” <br /><br />and... <br /><br />He believes his job is easily defined: to create a safe environment that allows everyone else to get on with the job of making as much money as possible. “Visibility is important: we operate a rule, that you should never go longer than 10 minutes without seeing a policeman,” he says. “But we must also be at the cutting edge of techniques for combating fraud and terrorism.”<br /><br />and...<br /><br />So what keeps him in the job? “It’s the buzz. You’re in the centre of London where everything is happening. I love it.” His wife, Karen, is a detective constable in the British Transport Police. “I’m lucky: we come as a team and I couldn’t do it without her,” he says.<br /><br /><a href="http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26b%3D22%26ni%3D21%26va%3DMike%2BBowron%26xargs%3D0%26pstart%3D1%26fr%3Dalltheweb&w=236&h=236&imgurl=www.sii.org.uk%2Fsii%2Fweb5%2Fsii_review%2Fissue_images%2F29%2FBowron.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sii.org.uk%2Fcrm%2FSIIRevie.nsf%2Farticlesbyunivid%2FZE1F845D69F5D7BD1802573CC0053670C%3Feditdocument&size=82KB&name=...+Mike+Bowron+...&p=Mike+Bowron&oid=3ee32904b26a9621aab4dcb30747ee5e&fr2=&no=29&tt=108&b=22&ni=21&sigr=136do208b&sigi=11t044tn8&sigb=13k1tp28c" rel="nofollow">above extracts from here </a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-20785541200551214292010-10-26T19:41:28.939+01:002010-10-26T19:41:28.939+01:00Sorry, apropos my previous comment I did mean '...Sorry, apropos my previous comment I did mean 'further RUBBISH the abuse enquiry'.Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.com