tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post6141627915278441365..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Childrens Champion for Jersey – Where are YOU?voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-84551889111908192942010-03-21T21:55:52.648+00:002010-03-21T21:55:52.648+00:00I have responded to some of what is being asked on...I have responded to some of what is being asked on Stuart Syvret's bog. However, in respect of the specifics asked here, I will add the following.<br />It is alleged that someone on the team had a conflict of interest. Strange one this - none of them had any connection with Jersey before they were appointed - and they were appointed by ACPO in the UK, not by the SOJP.<br />Verbal concerns were raised (presumably by the ACPO team)with the SOJP but were not put in the written report because we did not want to follow the advice. This is rubbish and simply untrue. There was some advice that we didn't follow, but the advice is in the report - for instance, the points system for judging what were serious offences! Why would we have anything left out? This is a gross insult to the ACPO team. Furthermore, the ACPO team had the private meeting with Walker, Ogley, and Lewis. If anything was amiss they could have raised it at any time. ACPO remained constructive and helpful up until I left.<br />The ACPO reports were an amalgamation of the work of all three members. For instance, one of them was an expert on the HOLMES computer system, so he went through our work on there. One was the UK's leading Homicide investigator, so he examined that aspect of it. That was the way the reports were compiled.<br />I hope this helps. Lenny HarperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-61172457814492235062010-03-21T19:34:17.229+00:002010-03-21T19:34:17.229+00:00Senator Le Marquand, when confronted with a couple...Senator Le Marquand, when confronted with a couple of thousand unhappy and roudy union members at Fort Regent last Summer, looked bewildered and nieve, if anything the members there felt sorry for him, because realistically this was his first face to face confronation with some of the good honest people of Jersey and he looked weak and vunerable, he carried on even though he was in the spot light and dug himself deeper and deeper into a hole, but the good people there that night allowed him to get away with what he was saying because he was a "new boy" that could only learn from his mistakes....<br /><br />But today has proved that this hasn't and will not happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-65867284419936276472010-03-21T19:08:12.621+00:002010-03-21T19:08:12.621+00:00Just copied and pasted this from another site.
&qu...Just copied and pasted this from another site.<br />"Just listened to the talk back show.<br /><br />Senator Le Marquand said it was Warcop not Graham Power that invited the Met Police to review the investigation, yet on reading the Suspension review meeting notes after Graham Powers said he invited the Met Police ILM said:<br /><br />I have to say, obviously I have had conversations with different people on different occasions, but I have to say that the understanding I have picked up from other conversations accord with what Mr. Power is saying".<br /><br />TUT TUT IAN TUT TUTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-3825105591898755562010-03-21T18:44:07.637+00:002010-03-21T18:44:07.637+00:00If someone thinks different questions should be as...If someone thinks different questions should be asked on the phone in, that someone should phone in and ask next time ;) - the more the merrier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-77678575956527117152010-03-21T18:43:09.038+00:002010-03-21T18:43:09.038+00:00Although I did ask a number of questions and it is...Although I did ask a number of questions and it is a pity the commenter couldn't have heard them.<br /><br />One that never got answered was "how many victims came forward after Mick Gradwell and David Warcup took over the Child Abuse investigation?"<br /><br />We know somewhere in the region of 150 came forward When Lenny Harper was running the show.<br /><br />So if we could compare that against the amount of people who came forward when Gradwell was running it, we might have a better idea as to who run the best media stategy.<br /><br />But alas I believe this is going to be yet another question (that the commenter never heard) that will remain un-answered.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-22156119816073849432010-03-21T18:40:49.998+00:002010-03-21T18:40:49.998+00:00Rico
Slightly off topic but I could not get my co...Rico<br /><br />Slightly off topic but I could not get my comment to send on your other site regarding the alleged coc-no-nut.<br /><br />It was stated in the infamous article by the discredited David Rose and on wikipedia's Jersey abuse investigation page among others, that Kew Gardens tested the fragment and confirmed the type of coconut.<br /><br />It is entirely possible that once the fragment changed size, color and shape, it did so after an actual coconut was substituted for the original piece. The obvious motive to discredit Harper seems as likely as any other explanation for that dramatic change in the state of the evidence. <br /><br />But is is also possible the Kew Gardens testing was made up by the hack David Rose? Wouldn't surprise his peers.<br /><br />I know the whole coconut saga is irrelevant since the area it was retrieved from was discounted by Harper from the investigation anyway, but it might be helpful to further look into the Kew Gardens link.<br /><br />Whether or not the Kew Gardens identification of a coconut can be verified, someone urgently needs to change the misleading story on wikipedia's page.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-64805631621523319172010-03-21T18:40:49.999+00:002010-03-21T18:40:49.999+00:00Well said VFC - I think Ian Le Marquand lost all c...Well said VFC - I think Ian Le Marquand lost all credibility today.<br /><br />Are we aware of who authored the ACPO reports (Lenny?), and I have to say that if one of the authors were conflicted, is it not a fact that Ian Le Marquand and CM Le Sueur were massively conflicted over Bob Hill's proposition on a public enquiry, and should not have voted.<br /><br />That was a very efficient Tooth Fairy at HdelaG. Tidied up the teeth and pushed all 65 of them through gaps in the floorboards!!<br /><br />Pull the other one Senator - even a child could not make that one up.Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-51424704633692986802010-03-21T18:23:21.295+00:002010-03-21T18:23:21.295+00:00VFC
Haven't we wondered what ILM & Co wo...VFC <br /><br />Haven't we wondered what ILM & Co would do next to spin this? Nothing could be MORE predictable than the "secret scandalous bombshell" about GP which no one will ever reveal. Maybe that is because they are still trying to pull the whole secret report together, and can only hint at the content until it actually exists. Disgusting!<br /><br />ChrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-35937205764724798992010-03-21T18:05:11.186+00:002010-03-21T18:05:11.186+00:00I listened to the phone in today and apart from sa...I listened to the phone in today and apart from saying that 'you couldn't make it up' (one of Stuart Syvrets favourite sayings) about 4 times you didn't actually ask anything of importance. Shame you missed your chance to ask some worthwhile questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-4102839692834107462010-03-21T17:36:21.205+00:002010-03-21T17:36:21.205+00:00So Senator (P9-26) Le Marquand has got something &...So Senator (P9-26) Le Marquand has got something "scandalous" to reveal about ACPO? Something that will bring their integrity into question? Oh my god, how will anybody be able to trust ACPO again?<br /><br />You see the power of the good Senator? He is going to bring about the downfall of ACPO and expose to the world what a corrupt bunch of crooks they are, along with anybody else who try's to give any credibility to the child abuse investigation. Good on you Senator, you really are a giant amongst men.<br /><br />Either that or your a completey deluded individual who hasn't got a clue what you are getting yourself involved in.<br /><br />For your sake and indeed for the sake of Jersey's reputation and integrity I hope you have got something earth shattering explosive on ACPO, because it's going to need to be.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-58093082816266291782010-03-21T15:33:50.611+00:002010-03-21T15:33:50.611+00:00Dear VFC
I'd like to ask Lennie a question if...Dear VFC<br /><br />I'd like to ask Lennie a question if possible.<br /><br />Ian Le Marquand on talkback got very animated about the ACPO reports repeating that there was a big scandal about them (that he couldn't tell us about because it is all 'confidential') however with a bit of probing he hinted at two things <br /><br />1. That someone on the ACPO team had a conflict of interest and shouldn't have been involved.<br /><br />2. That verbal concerns and recommendations were raised with the Jersey police about the HDLG investigation that were not put into the written report because the Jersey officers did not want to follow this advice.<br /><br />Lennie, can you shed any light on this and what your take is on Le Marquand's latest comments?<br /><br />(PS word verification 'incults' ha ha very apt)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-12093972750196691712010-03-21T13:46:45.324+00:002010-03-21T13:46:45.324+00:00ILM says that he has not looked at the ACPO report...ILM says that he has not looked at the ACPO reports because he has enough evidence as it is.<br /><br />What he keeps repeating is that he has seen something in the Met report concerning GP, which is completely out of order and on that basis he is keeping him suspended.<br /><br />Senator,why dont you share this shocking evidence, which only you have, from this Met report, which only you have?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-86103829092012499072010-03-21T12:22:02.213+00:002010-03-21T12:22:02.213+00:00ILM says he has no problem ethically or morally ab...ILM says he has no problem ethically or morally about the continued suspension because of what he's read in the Interim Wilts reports - but I thought he hadn't read any evidence and couldn't take any notice of such things?<br /><br />Towards the end of Talkback he said the entire GP susp. depended on the way GP allegedly failed to oversee how Lenny handled the case - despite the ACPO report recommendations to the contrary that he should not get involved at that level!!<br /><br />It really doesn't add up, he's clutching at straws trying to besmirch ACPO and insinuate scandal - we REALLY need a PUBLIC enquiry ASAP to clear the air and give the islanders faith in how this place is being run - or not!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-5399971370684422992010-03-21T12:15:16.235+00:002010-03-21T12:15:16.235+00:00ILM initially thought the original GP suspension w...ILM initially thought the original GP suspension was suspect, but then he admits he took advice from the Law Officers to change his mind - I assume this means the Bayleaf and deputy, AG and SG etc.<br /><br />That doesn't comfort me in the slightest!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-12325405782652111932010-03-21T12:00:02.162+00:002010-03-21T12:00:02.162+00:00Ian Le Marquand just stated on phone in that he wo...Ian Le Marquand just stated on phone in that he would not be pressured as Andrew Lewis might have been by anyone including the Chief Minister or above,placed this question with the show but no time to get on.<br />Question "who is above the C.M"?<br />Is this comment proof of Civil servants being perceived to be above politicians in the pecking order?.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-76495763978639134082010-03-21T11:55:31.838+00:002010-03-21T11:55:31.838+00:00Talk Back this morning is doing full 360 degree ci...Talk Back this morning is doing full 360 degree circles, nobody is anymore the wiser since 10.00 am this morning. Need more news on this ACPO scandal though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-14907262934986318442010-03-21T02:13:11.952+00:002010-03-21T02:13:11.952+00:00'Perhaps you are forgetting a senior Civil Ser...'Perhaps you are forgetting a senior Civil Servant at the Education Department is/was a suspect in the Child Abuse Investigation, wasn't suspended and remains in post to this day.'<br /><br />True and also be careful when trying to give evidence on behalf of someone to the police on him, because if the name turns up on his desk, he is the one who gives social services the OK to kidnap your children from school - funny that isn t it.One Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06253354413394039558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-19479868360272878932010-03-20T17:35:09.354+00:002010-03-20T17:35:09.354+00:00It is possible that children's services will n...It is possible that children's services will not escape the swinging axe of the Comprehensive Spending Review, that threatens all public services. The Jersey Child Protection Committee currently operates on a budget of £270,000, spent mainly on staffing.<br /><br />Williamson acknowledged that morale amongst social workers in the UK was not high and that there were many unfilled vacancies in many regions, having been battered by recent scandals. One wonders therefore what the situation is like in Jersey?<br /><br />Overall the meeting was very sleep inducing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-82291217722272387572010-03-20T10:02:30.687+00:002010-03-20T10:02:30.687+00:00Thomas Wellard.
You said " Vetting and Barri...Thomas Wellard.<br /><br />You said " Vetting and Barring was also ignored."<br /><br />Perhaps you are forgetting a senior Civil Servant at the Education Department is/was a suspect in the Child Abuse Investigation, wasn't suspended and remains in post to this day.<br /><br />"Vetting and Barring" would be a very uncomfortable subject to discuss, and would take some "balls" something Scrutiny is lacking in.<br /><br />As we know, the States of Jersey has "a duty of care" when it comes to their Civil Servants. It is just a shame that "duty of care" doesn't stretch to our children!voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-74064861075582042522010-03-20T02:58:45.963+00:002010-03-20T02:58:45.963+00:00Having just watched the video, why is it that noth...Having just watched the video, why is it that nothing changes, or improves, until an independent body is brought in??? Always the same story, can't our halfwits get anything right!!!<br /><br />Scottish Inspection Agency!!! Jesus Christ, just look at the cover-up with the Hollie Grieg story.<br /><br />http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/03/hollie-greigs-story.htmlBig Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-36070266407225107482010-03-20T02:14:19.161+00:002010-03-20T02:14:19.161+00:00Magistrate Bridget Shaw is leading the way now wit...Magistrate Bridget Shaw is leading the way now with the 10 yera old girl thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-31237350948144978862010-03-19T23:40:23.979+00:002010-03-19T23:40:23.979+00:00Good points made very clearly.Good points made very clearly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-16369608096261195742010-03-19T18:08:49.435+00:002010-03-19T18:08:49.435+00:00Listening to Mr Williamson on CTV tonight he '...Listening to Mr Williamson on CTV tonight he 'thinks the Children's Service went through a difficult period, and he thinks they are making improvements'.<br /><br />Why oh why doesn't he KNOW? Making improvements? They should have been made and have been seen to have been made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com