tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post6398827703811115496..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Heads they win Tails I lose.voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-34988297901060352622010-01-31T19:39:54.307+00:002010-01-31T19:39:54.307+00:00The BBC website story credited you http://news.bbc...The BBC website story credited you http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/jersey/hi/people_and_places/the_states/newsid_8456000/8456832.stmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-44753353720578715562010-01-29T23:48:11.724+00:002010-01-29T23:48:11.724+00:00I completely disagree with the idea that BBC-Jerse...I completely disagree with the idea that BBC-Jersey should be writen off as a lost cause. <br /><br />It remains of interest to certain non-islanders that BBC has done nothing to correct their bizarrely biased Jersey coverage. Examples of BBC-Jersey's violation of the present charter have been called to attention of the London executives repeatedly. Some of BBC's own investigative journalists have become curious enough to bring it up in house. <br /><br />You, VFC, have shown that by complaining long and hard enough, there is a slight, but notable, movement to allow more diversity of call-in opinion than, say, what is expressed daily by that one rather famously silly woman. <br /><br />This is because for some of those BBC executives, the key to correcting this well known Jersey-BBC bias lies in the level of potential embarassment for them if it continues for so long after they have been properly notified. Quantity of complaint does matter, even when it's effect is not yet apparent to those tired of complaining, but quality of complain, i.e. cringe worthy recorded evidence, matters more quickly. <br /><br />Your recordings of the Jersey programs will definately cause a more serious concern to those at BBC's London offices who are already familiar with the possible violations to their charter.<br /><br />Another matter that will have to be addressed by them now is the on-going failure to credit the original internet journalists whenever any BBC outlet knowingly co-opts an exclusive. You must document that failure each time you have published an important online exclusive which BBC Jersey either unjustifiably ignores or clearly mentions as their own news without properly crediting you. It is a more serious ethical matter than you may realize and it will be of interest to a different layer of decision makers at BBC.<br /><br />When you record and document, and then place that evidence in the hands of the right people, you also take away all their excuses for plausible deniability. Their usual response to complaints about Jersey bias is to fill out some procedural forms which insulate each level at BBC from having to "be fully aware" of actual evidence and therefor accountable for the problem. When you provide multiple officials at their London offices with recorded examples, and concrete evidence of any obvious bias you have actually documented, including your statistics of attempts to get your views on air, none of the recipients can deny that evidence was brought to their attention.<br /><br />Do not be discouraged! Your effect may not yet be fully apparent, but your blog has attracted enough negative comment from those in opposition to you to prove that some are worried about what you are doing. That could actually be a sign of your inreasing influence, because that kind of poster would never bother with those comments if your efforts did not matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-19388303276973278942010-01-29T11:02:27.096+00:002010-01-29T11:02:27.096+00:00Pour Les Contres said...
"BBC Jersey is a lo...Pour Les Contres said...<br /><br />"BBC Jersey is a lost cause.<br /><br />Like with a lost love you would be better off devoting your energies to the future.<br /><br />BBC Jersey is the past.<br /><br />Neil, please don't waste your valuable time on BBC Jersey."<br /><br />I agree. You are to some extent validating BBC Jersey by taking them this seriously.<br /><br />Neil, it's time to move onwards. The most powerful and valuable thing you can do with this blog is be a force in helping others move away from the island's Quisling media.<br /><br />If BBC Jersey would rather Talkback were used for discussion about turnips or seaweed than the worryingly serious issues currently blighting island politics and eroding Jersey's international reputation, let them wallow in that mire of irrelevance. Don't wade in it with them.<br /><br />Citizen's media is now doing the job Talkback should be doing. So stride forwards with that in mind, and leave BBC Jersey to roll around in your dust.Just Another Jersey Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10929745074442323279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-52825243104511360672010-01-29T08:35:50.915+00:002010-01-29T08:35:50.915+00:00VFC Your anger worries me. Nobody else gets so wo...VFC Your anger worries me. Nobody else gets so wound up about a trivial matter like a phone in. It is not like my or your or anybody else's views will even remotely change anything. Thats why it's called a moan in. Emile still believes his moaning will get the JDA votes, never does when it matters does it and he says the samething every day? The Phone-in is only important to about 5 people who mut spend their morning looking forward to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-55411295971701657322010-01-29T08:18:24.054+00:002010-01-29T08:18:24.054+00:00Paul.
I don't intend on discussing this with ...Paul.<br /><br />I don't intend on discussing this with you, if you don't pay attention to what I'm saying/typing. Where did you get the word "complaint" from my last comment?<br /><br />That being said, you might be surprised to hear I agree with you. I'm sure (the BBC anyway) would much rather listen to Bridget in the lunch hour than me.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-36776822192077375492010-01-29T08:09:16.824+00:002010-01-29T08:09:16.824+00:00Well maybe they are right that the live show is no...Well maybe they are right that the live show is not the place to air a complaint though? Would you want to hear it during the lunchhour? I think I can see what they mean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-21712477737552470102010-01-29T08:06:05.179+00:002010-01-29T08:06:05.179+00:00Paul.
Perhaps you don't grasp that what I wan...Paul.<br /><br />Perhaps you don't grasp that what I want to say on the BBC isn't anywhere near as revealing as the fact, they won't let me say it.<br /><br />The fact that I am prevented from sharing my "experiences" of attempting to contribute to the phone in tells a story in itself.<br /><br />The issue here is, not what I want to say, it's that BBC Radio Jersey won't let me say it.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-74314714722684191532010-01-28T23:28:09.924+00:002010-01-28T23:28:09.924+00:00VFC, what would you say on the BBC phone in if the...VFC, what would you say on the BBC phone in if they let you on? Just say it here?<br /><br />Paul.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-25941358866633284632010-01-28T16:34:54.198+00:002010-01-28T16:34:54.198+00:00Repetitive - it is a boring, embarrassing disgrace...Repetitive - it is a boring, embarrassing disgrace!! The contributors who are permitted to speak are usually the same ones who do not come up for air once they start.<br /><br />Once heard, never forgotten!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-89623734149318315402010-01-28T12:22:19.982+00:002010-01-28T12:22:19.982+00:00I like the Phone-in its good to listen to whilst e...I like the Phone-in its good to listen to whilst eating your lunch. A bit repetitive though somedays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-3175345193365834542010-01-28T03:44:58.422+00:002010-01-28T03:44:58.422+00:00BBC Jersey is a lost cause.
Like with a lost love...BBC Jersey is a lost cause.<br /><br />Like with a lost love you would be better off devoting your energies to the future.<br /><br />BBC Jersey is the past.<br /><br />I listened to the phone in, and it seemed to me that the first two callers barely knew which planet they were on, never mind making valid points.<br /><br />Neil, please don't waste your valuable time on BBC Jersey.Pour Les Contreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00193154178889331636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-13703691662426019262010-01-27T20:07:04.809+00:002010-01-27T20:07:04.809+00:00Forget about the Phone-in people are bored of list...Forget about the Phone-in people are bored of listening to Emile, Rosemary, Bridget, Tony etc, so don't even bother just go to Channel 103 instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-36007603247022016682010-01-27T19:57:19.627+00:002010-01-27T19:57:19.627+00:00Here you can listen again to today's phone-in....Here you can listen again to today's phone-in. My contribution starts at 16 minutes and 56 seconds and ends 1 minute and 9 seconds later. Immediately before me was Bridget with her massive 8 minutes and 8 seconds worth.<br /><br />Ask yourselves why doesn't the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00627sk/BBC_Jersey_PhoneIn_27_01_2010/" rel="nofollow">Bridget Bullsh1t Corporation</a> want their liteners to hear of my "experiences" of trying to get on the phone-in, what are they so scared of, what have they got to hide?voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-20821022737731655752010-01-27T19:04:46.278+00:002010-01-27T19:04:46.278+00:00Channel 103 are knocking spot off BBC Radio Jersey...Channel 103 are knocking spot off BBC Radio Jersey in every aspect of radio.<br /><br />But the sad thing is that BBC Radio Jersey pay their staff,a lot more money, because they have more qualifications? Paid by us the BBC Licence paying public aswell!<br /><br />Whereas Channel 103 have to survive alot on advertising therefore have to keep getting better (which they are doing)<br /><br />There will have to be a time soon when BBC Radio Jersey is going to have to justify their actions and their vastly dwindling listening figures!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-5985443471301487642010-01-27T18:55:33.658+00:002010-01-27T18:55:33.658+00:00Jill.
What the Bridget Bullsh1t Corporation did t...Jill.<br /><br />What the Bridget Bullsh1t Corporation did today just demonstated exactly how "shameless" they really are.<br /><br />Just before I was on, the good old Bridget was afforded 8 mins and 8 seconds. I got 1 minute 9 seconds which included the Disc Jockey butting in on me before I was cut off.<br /><br />I will put the link up tomorrow for the i player and the time myself and Bridget were on and if anybody believes, after listening to it, that the Bridget Bullsh1t Corporation have nothing to hide, then they must be in complete denial.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-54437318200802763582010-01-27T17:31:58.439+00:002010-01-27T17:31:58.439+00:00Well, today was a first for me in relation to the ...Well, today was a first for me in relation to the phone-in, and boy, what an eye-opener.<br /><br />I decided to listen as VFC had said he was going to be permitted on air to share his 'experiences'.<br />After listening to Emile who is a lovely old chap, then we had the infamous Bridget. Did she waffle on, and on, and on until I stood in my lounge and shouted to the radio 'get her off now please'!<br /><br />Then the real reason for my listening, and what a rude, unprofessional piece of 'interviewing' that was. I felt the whole thing was diabolical and had to pinch myself to reassure myself that it was the BBC I was listening to. The fact that VFC had said he was going to talk about his experiences and then get cut off (which was one of the very experiences he wanted to discuss) without so much as an apology or an explanation that he could not continue was appalling.<br /><br />I phoned to leave a comment to be read on air that I felt it was a disgrace, unprofessional and very rude, and that I hoped the presenter had the b***s to read it out. Needless to say, it was not read out. However other comments from our now famous 'troll' under the names of Rico, Paul and another I can't remember which would not have been attributed to the 'real' them were given air time!!<br /><br />I have tried to call Matthew Price on several occasions to make a complaint, but he has been very elusive. In fact as I was in St Helier, I even walked up to the BBC offices, but again he proved to be unavailable. When I returned home at 4.40 p.m.and tried again he had left! So, I will be e-mailing him and await a response.<br /><br />I will never venture to listen to this programme again. We have pressing issues in this Island and <br />yet they are discussing potatoes, seaweed, euthanasia blah, blah, blah. No wonder the monotone presenter sounded as animated and interested as an octogenerian at a <br />Rage against the Machine concert.<br /><br />I can certainly see what your post was about now VFC, and I'm glad (well not really) that I made the effort to listen painful though it was.<br /><br />A first and a last for me!!Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-82497082947641889932010-01-27T17:19:10.862+00:002010-01-27T17:19:10.862+00:00I listened to it as well and had a right laugh. T...I listened to it as well and had a right laugh. They cut Neil off and then read out an e-mail from Neil of St Clement saying that Bridget is always right, you just could not make it up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-17463292490009656952010-01-27T13:32:52.654+00:002010-01-27T13:32:52.654+00:00Hi VFC.
Well i broke my golden rule today and put...Hi VFC.<br /><br />Well i broke my golden rule today and put the "phone in" on.<br /><br />LOL what a load of bollix ,bridget was ripping it up on every issue under the sun. Did she take a Speed Bomb?<br /><br />Shit, jon even gave me a mention about loving bridget christ gave me a chuckle thou. Like i say after the blitzkrieg the mopping up will take care of this crap the issues we have at the moment go way beyond this. <br /><br />BBC JERSEY IS ALL ABOUT THE ARTS MAN.<br /><br />Look they all sing and dance, do the shows go on the cock-tail circuit its a nice little set up.<br /><br />Mathew Price is very very wooden on stage thou bloody hell, see it to be believe it.<br /><br />So back with the real issues there is nothing we can do about this they will never change. <br /><br />The phone-in is not important. Citizen media and reporting the truth is.<br /><br />rsrico sordahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09370637157786202673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-38302797424711994532010-01-27T13:29:32.553+00:002010-01-27T13:29:32.553+00:00VFC, if anybody doubted you about the BBC then the...VFC, if anybody doubted you about the BBC then they should listen back to today's phone in I think they have something to hide and are a disgrace to free speech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-8842054524507147062010-01-27T13:10:52.991+00:002010-01-27T13:10:52.991+00:00VFC,
Today BBC radio Jersey proved that they are ...VFC,<br /><br />Today BBC radio Jersey proved that they are as bad as the rag.<br /><br />Firstly they cut you off, they would have pre planned this.<br /><br />Then they read out two bogus emails one fron a Rico? saying that he was inspired by Bridgets comments.<br /><br />Then another email straight after was read saying that Senator Stuart Syvret was a disgrace....<br /><br />Thats it for me now no more rag nor cringe worthy BBC radio Jersey!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-69047542496657494832010-01-27T09:19:40.426+00:002010-01-27T09:19:40.426+00:001.don't pay your licence fee& see what hap...1.don't pay your licence fee& see what happens.<br />2.contact Paxman might be interested to do a follow up after FW appearance.<br />3.BBC tv have a programme saturdays am where listeners can go on air & complain about the service,don't know if that covers radio but worth a shot maybe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-64805853554166126402010-01-27T09:00:29.413+00:002010-01-27T09:00:29.413+00:00Anonymous (Comment One)- Out of touch??
Along wit...Anonymous (Comment One)- Out of touch??<br /><br />Along with another popular blog the Voice Team are more 'in touch' than any of the alternative media.<br />Where may I ask did the members of PPC first become aware of the letter that Mr Power had sent to the Committee members...eerm, not from their Chair, not from the BBC. I think it was this blog, and this was matters that aroused a lot of interest and was of great importance.<br /><br />It must be particularly galling for VFC that their exclusives on these two matters were quite happily used by the BBC to have quite a lengthy discussion on air, which for once made good listening, yet they are unable to afford the author of this blog air time!<br /><br />In all fairness I hope that they will allow you a voice tomorrow and don't forget BBC - you heard it first here.Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-30423569029979115842010-01-26T22:59:11.556+00:002010-01-26T22:59:11.556+00:00Being a newbie here does that make me number 5 the...Being a newbie here does that make me number 5 then?<br /><br />The Beano is not the RagAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-26690537856372655552010-01-26T20:38:35.946+00:002010-01-26T20:38:35.946+00:00Does that make Four of us now?Does that make Four of us now?voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-20021703594664692572010-01-26T20:31:42.891+00:002010-01-26T20:31:42.891+00:00There are only 3 of you talking about the BBC phon...There are only 3 of you talking about the BBC phone in. Even the regulars on the phone in out number 3.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com