tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post7173807358856069831..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Who is the real Chief Minister (part 2)voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-81913069125983248662010-11-11T16:24:51.872+00:002010-11-11T16:24:51.872+00:00"The Chief Executive said that it was anticip..."The Chief Executive said that it was anticipated that the Council of Ministers would tomorrow be asked by the then Chief Minister, Senator Frank Walker, to pass a vote of “no confidence” in the Health Minister and that this could result in his removal from office. I was then told of measures that had apparently been put in place to facilitate this."<br /><br />Measures had apparently been put in place to facilitate this? Jersey democracy at its finest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-61670101930457905862010-11-11T13:30:40.853+00:002010-11-11T13:30:40.853+00:00I think TLS has difficulty with facts i think of h...I think TLS has difficulty with facts i think of him as the riddler ie he talks in riddles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-45040794662074555722010-11-11T13:14:53.800+00:002010-11-11T13:14:53.800+00:00Some BAD NEWS for Paedophiles and great news for v...Some <a href="http://therightofreply.blogspot.com/2010/11/chris-largest-anti-paedophile-site-in.html" rel="nofollow">BAD NEWS</a> for Paedophiles and great news for victims.Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-65302135288053875682010-11-11T09:51:12.963+00:002010-11-11T09:51:12.963+00:00Senator T.A. Le Sueur:
".... I believe that ...Senator T.A. Le Sueur:<br /><br />".... I believe that any reference to a file note, which may be contained in some blog or other source should be treated with the appropriate level of certainty."<br /><br />HE LATER SAYS<br /><br />"I will treat it to the extent that I need to treat it at this stage, with the appropriate level of seriousness, yes."<br /><br />--------------------<br /><br />It would appear that TLS is saying as there is not certainty in a file note posted on a blog, I will treat it with [very low level] appropriate seriousness.<br /><br />However, TLS later responds with:<br /><br />----------<br /><br />"I have not seen the original file note, I have seen a copy of it and as I have previously said it will be treated with the appropriate level of seriousness."<br /><br />------<br /><br />This comment made the first (above) comment, redundant and showed he up for the evasive person he is. However surely his "level of seriousness" rating had changed from uncertainty to fact!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-33269853951949520292010-11-11T08:59:08.861+00:002010-11-11T08:59:08.861+00:00The audio of the Hansard on the main posting of th...The audio of the Hansard on the main posting of this Blog is on <a href="http://thejerseyway.blogspot.com/2010/11/who-is-real-chief-minister.html" rel="nofollow">TJW.</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-21581385576455433202010-11-10T20:48:51.607+00:002010-11-10T20:48:51.607+00:00Hi
Before I say this I will point out that I have...Hi<br /><br />Before I say this I will point out that I have not seen the JEP printed version, only a picture on thisisjersey.<br /><br />What struck me from the online version is that the headline news was about your help is needed more than ever. So I asked someone I know to look on the website and choose which one of the available news links on the homepage would they put as the headline. The answer was the 'the former nurse aho abused boys'. Which would have been my headline, I might be wrong but the item below the headline doesnt look like that either but it is only a small picture so could be wrong.<br /><br />I asked why he thought that was after all the HDLG stuff and he replied that he didnt think anything happened at Hdlg. I pointed out that there have been a quite a few prosecutions since the hdlg investigation but I was unable to say if any prosecutions have been literally related to Hdlg itself and not just the investigation. Could you let me know if they have?<br /><br />All I could say at the time was that their have been quite a few prosecutions since it all started and he was surprised. He doesn't read the JEP just uses the website or bbc jersey website.<br /><br />After I had pointed out that there had been prosecutions, and like I said not sure if any directly involving hdlg, I asked the same question about what should be the headline.<br /><br />The answer was, the nurse but then I suppose they want to try to keep it fairly quiet!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-38462008861311881242010-11-10T20:26:50.200+00:002010-11-10T20:26:50.200+00:00Please pass THIS on, thank you.Please pass <a href="http://therightofreply.blogspot.com/2010/11/me-and-my-malware-in-sad-old-jersey.html" rel="nofollow">THIS</a> on, thank you.Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-44531330405921220442010-11-10T19:54:44.968+00:002010-11-10T19:54:44.968+00:00Interesting that the UK Gov't will only interv...Interesting that the UK Gov't will only intervene in serious circumstances such as endemic corruption. Not much chance of that in Jersey because the corruption law can only be prosecuted by the Attorney General, well, actually it is possible but it requires the recusation of the AG & SG. Just so happens that may be on the cards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-19358342323630255082010-11-10T15:49:47.407+00:002010-11-10T15:49:47.407+00:00JEP Page 13
The right to intervene.
Worth a rea...JEP Page 13 <br />The right to intervene. <br />Worth a read.<br /><br />I live in hope that the UK will ride to Jersey rescue please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-76509313583303413042010-11-10T15:07:11.444+00:002010-11-10T15:07:11.444+00:00Try listening to the Guernsey version on 1116 AM, ...Try listening to the Guernsey version on 1116 AM, it's still BBC but in a totally different league! They d o n t t a l k s l o w l y f o r t h e e l d e r l y, it's lively and interesting! Couldn't be a bigger contrast :)BBC Drivelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-11497738803140081142010-11-10T14:18:27.563+00:002010-11-10T14:18:27.563+00:00Yes it’s blatantly obvious that Hamish is a good o...Yes it’s blatantly obvious that Hamish is a good old establishment chap. He’s not that stupid, he knows that the BBC are looking less than ordinary as a “news” outlet. It should be embarrassing to them that all these questions are still being asked. Why haven’t the BBC interviewed Bill Ogley, Ian Critch, Andrew Lewis or David Warcup on the Napier Report? Or the AG and SG?<br /><br />The BBC’s line is “coincidently” the same as the establishment’s line. “Let’s put this to bed.” “Ahh! Not more questions over the suspension of Graham Power.” When we get the answers the questions will stop. Our Powers that be won’t give us the answers, and our “accredited” media aren’t even asking the questions!!voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-85571025524068651362010-11-10T13:32:12.695+00:002010-11-10T13:32:12.695+00:00Wouldn't bother with Marret-Crosby.
The contem...Wouldn't bother with Marret-Crosby.<br />The contempt he has for you is so apparent.<br />If he lent anymore to the right he would fall over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-65045504451042026812010-11-10T12:24:48.035+00:002010-11-10T12:24:48.035+00:00Is the Napier report also buying Mr. Napiers silen...Is the Napier report also buying Mr. Napiers silence? <br /><br />Who does this Napier report benefit it TLS is not acting on it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-78913256892879681202010-11-10T12:22:08.854+00:002010-11-10T12:22:08.854+00:00Could you imagine the kind of report, Wiltshire st...Could you imagine the kind of report, Wiltshire style Napier or otherwise that would come back if we request one on our Chief Minister or Bill O come to that matter. <br /><br />Lets do it. Get a report on their conduct with NO opportunity for them to defend themselves.<br /><br />Lets get a private fund together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-65486710579872061822010-11-10T09:11:47.507+00:002010-11-10T09:11:47.507+00:00dear vfc
you will not get any answer from tls and...dear vfc<br /><br />you will not get any answer from tls and hes footstapping idiot,s he will stand down next year then you get po and more of the same what is needed is for a uk paper to fully investigate what is going on here that could make some reporter,s career.martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-54098969875865464652010-11-10T00:32:40.601+00:002010-11-10T00:32:40.601+00:00Hansard 19th Jan 2010
TMP = Deputy T.M. Pitman
TL...Hansard 19th Jan 2010<br /><br />TMP = Deputy T.M. Pitman<br />TLS = Senator T.A. Le Sueur (Chief Minister)<br /><br /><b>Questions and answers!</b><br /><br />TMP-Q1) Did a meeting led by the Chief Executive take place after the C.M.B. (Corporate Management Board) meeting on 25th July 2007 to discuss matters relating to then Minister for Health and Social Services<br /><br />TLS-A1) The Chief Executive has confirmed that there was a meeting of some chief officers following a meeting of the Corporate Management Board on 25th July 2007 to discuss the impact, which the then Minister for Health and Social Services’ criticism of Social Services staff was having on staff morale. <br /><br /><br />TMP-Q2) if so who was present at the meeting? <br /><br />TLS-A2) Those present at the meeting were the Chief Executive, the Chief Officer of Police, the <br />Director of Human Resources, the Chief Officer of Education, Sport and Culture and the Chief <br />Officer of Health and Social Services. The Chief Police Officer did not attend the entire meeting.<br /><br />TMP-Q3) Was the possible removal from office of the then Minister discussed <br /><br />TLS-A3) The Chief Executive confirmed that at no time was there discussed at this meeting the possible removal of the then Minister from office.<br /><br />----------------------<br /><br />Technically it could be argued TLS was correct, as Bill Ogley was asking those present at that meeting to 'pass a vote of “no confidence” in the Minister', whereas the question was aimed at an issue that had obviously already been discussed in some other previous meeting as the outcome of that lead to Bill Ogley stating 'that it was anticipated that the Council of Ministers would tomorrow be asked by the then Chief Minister, Senator Frank Walker, to pass a vote of “no confidence” in the Health Minister and that this could result in his removal from office.'<br /><br /><br />A new question should be framed slightly differently, perhaps along the lines of:<br /><br />At the meeting led by the Chief Executive after the C.M.B. (Corporate Management Board) meeting on 25th July 2007. did the Chief Executive say 'it was anticipated that the Council of Ministers would be asked by the then Chief Minister, Senator Frank Walker, to pass a vote of “no confidence” in the then Health Minister and that this could result in his removal from office' and did he suggest that those present should pass a vote of "no confidence" in that Minister or something similar to give support to the proposal that the Chief Minister would bring forward the next day.?<br /><br /><br />It could also be asked:<br /><br />Why did Bill Ogley ask the then Chief of Police to stay behind for the 'said' meeting and why did he ask him leave the meeting?<br /><br />-------------------------<br /><br />However, I believe it is best to have possible follow up questions, as TLS seems relatively confident when answering a question he/his advisor/s have had time to craft, whereas, follow up's appear at times to be quite challenging and are more likely to get him 'flapping'.has-the-question-been-answerednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-31247476071072151342010-11-09T21:55:07.678+00:002010-11-09T21:55:07.678+00:00There is no doubt in my mind, nor has there ever b...There is no doubt in my mind, nor has there ever been as to who is to be believed and who's heads should roll in this disgraceful saga.<br /><br />Terry Le Sueur seems to be totally incapable of giving any straight answers to direct questions and is quite clearly covering Ogley's back. Again and again we have to question - why?<br /><br />He must surely realise that he holds no respect or credibility with either the electorate or a number of politicians.<br /><br />A man not fit for purpose.Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-8687887274012938352010-11-09T21:49:01.134+00:002010-11-09T21:49:01.134+00:00Anonymous said...
"I find myself cringing wit...Anonymous said...<br />"I find myself cringing with embarrassment reading about the behaviour of our Senior Civil Servants.<br /><br />Surely someone somewhere has the power to put an end to the damage these Senior players are causing Jeseys reputation.<br /><br />Who can make it stop. This is our Islands reputation being destroyed to protect a select few who have neither the will or desire to correct their own behaviour. Who is advising these people?"<br /><br /><br />THE LOCAL MEDIA WOULD BE A GOOD START<br /><br />rsrico sordahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09370637157786202673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-3240509216309229392010-11-09T21:20:28.440+00:002010-11-09T21:20:28.440+00:00Why and how is nevertobesir Birt allowed to move a...Why and how is nevertobesir Birt allowed to move awkward questions on, before being properly answered?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-23201424899364598802010-11-09T21:14:28.984+00:002010-11-09T21:14:28.984+00:00Thinking about this, Is the reason we are not gett...Thinking about this, Is the reason we are not getting answers by Mr. Le Sueur to avoid implicating anyone?<br /><br />Is TLS protecting his Senior Members by not answering questions. <br /><br />This is surely criminal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-77979391133005554312010-11-09T20:39:49.935+00:002010-11-09T20:39:49.935+00:00Not like King Birt to get in a flap, interesting t...Not like King Birt to get in a flap, interesting times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-8749240630792789212010-11-09T20:35:05.441+00:002010-11-09T20:35:05.441+00:00Looks like Mr. Birt was all in a fluster me thinks...Looks like Mr. Birt was all in a fluster me thinks he might be one of the legal advisers.<br /><br />The Bailiff:<br /><br />Sorry, what is your question, Deputy? Deputy what is your question? Deputy, this is question time, were you asking a question? Deputy, I am speaking to you, please stand up when I am speaking to you.<br /><br />Deputy T.M. Pitman:<br /><br />I was not aware you were talking to me, Sir, apologies<br /><br />The Bailiff:<br /><br />Well I am not sure who else I was talking to, but anyway ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-12055495151601738462010-11-09T19:53:00.371+00:002010-11-09T19:53:00.371+00:00What kind of advise has the law office offering?
...What kind of advise has the law office offering?<br /><br />A) Rubbish Stuart Syvret Health Minister engineer his dismissal?<br /><br />B) Rubbish Lenny Harper with JEP assistance?<br /><br />C) Rubbish Graham Power with JEP assistance. Suspend him allow him no means of appeal?<br /><br />Reminiscent of a bully in the playground trying to get their own way and boosting their own egos in the process. <br /><br />Bullies are not used to being confronted. Here is where the Law office have it wrong. They do not know how to advise these bullies what to do when people stand up and say no more this is wrong enough is enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-8117082879433613232010-11-09T19:36:05.291+00:002010-11-09T19:36:05.291+00:00As I said when this story first broke.
"Let ...As I said when this story first broke.<br /><br />"Let us hope that Graham Power had the good sense to take a dictaphone in the meeting with him".<br /><br />Well, did you Graham?<br /><br />ha ha word v "messe"Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-5023394703097659642010-11-09T19:24:44.896+00:002010-11-09T19:24:44.896+00:00“Who is advising these people?” Either directly, o...“Who is advising these people?” Either directly, or indirectly they will be getting advised by the Law Offices. The likes of Tim Le Coq and Howard Sharp among others.<br /><br />Team Voice will be Blogging about the Law Offices and its members some time in the future.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.com