tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post7530334312953389462..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: The P19 Eleven.voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-80520815814758510952011-03-06T23:04:58.054+00:002011-03-06T23:04:58.054+00:00Well...there are certain salient facts. We know th...Well...there are certain salient facts. We know that Dep Noel and TLS go back a very long way together (Eddie was Terry's gopher). We also know that Dep Pryke always votes the same way as TLS. ILM has a lot to lose on a public inquiry (over what he did as magistrate), and I rather suspect that Dep Gorst has the same. Ozouf is tied to TLS. That's six of them we can account for: the other five I can only guess really <b>do</b> have things to hide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-50907592851755114782011-03-06T02:32:12.973+00:002011-03-06T02:32:12.973+00:00A LITTLE DOSE OF PERJURY<a href="http://ianlevans.blogspot.com/2011/03/obar-incident-pc-nelson-perjury.html" rel="nofollow">A LITTLE DOSE OF PERJURY</a>Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-85182644718574220912011-03-05T21:57:54.284+00:002011-03-05T21:57:54.284+00:00Hi VFC.
Me again.I have just put up some more Au...Hi VFC. <br /><br />Me again.I have just put up some more Audio from the Debate of Deputy Hill's Amendment, between Senator le Marquand & senator Le Gresley.<br /><br />I hope I am doing something toward's the truth coming out. They don't know when I'm recording.<br /><br />You can listen to what got said <a href="http://thejerseyway.blogspot.com/2011/03/senator-le-gresley-hits-back-at-senator.html%22" rel="nofollow">Here</a>thejerseywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02401815536804277436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-34488205328061024542011-03-05T21:20:51.431+00:002011-03-05T21:20:51.431+00:00ANON SAID:
"Le Gresley has so far proved to ...ANON SAID:<br /><br />"Le Gresley has so far proved to be a good replacement for Syvret.<br /><br />He has let it be known that he has always admired Syvret ......"<br /><br />This is delusional. Le Gresley was elected by the voters of Jersey precisely because he was not the Syvret. They wanted anyone but Syvret. I feel certain Le Gresely has said nothing “privately”. It would loose him votes with the anti-Syvret bloc to do so. There is no point his thinking the ex-Syvret voters will vote for him as the new Messiah.<br /><br />We need to end the era of right-wing populist politicians that has been the bane of politics in the island and misled the popular vote. So long as fools dream of liberation by the Messiah the Autocracy will continue to rule.Black Baronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13436789420960285342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-81397803383136845972011-03-05T20:52:58.065+00:002011-03-05T20:52:58.065+00:00Le Gresley has so far proved to be a good replacem...Le Gresley has so far proved to be a good replacement for Syvret.<br /><br />He has let it be known that he has always admired Syvret and so far, him taking up Syvret's place is not as dissappointing as it first seemed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-67762756827483906672011-03-05T16:11:19.978+00:002011-03-05T16:11:19.978+00:00There also seems to be a bit of a misconception a...There also seems to be a bit of a misconception about the COI. Although Senator Le Gresley brought the proposition, it was Deputies Tadier and Hill, with their amendments that put the meat on the bones of Senator Le Gresley's Proposition.<br /><br />This was not a one man band as Senator Le Gresley is the first to agree, it was a team effort. Deputy Hill and Deputy Tadier deserve equal credit, again which Senator Le Gresley has given.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-58054775087763059072011-03-05T16:02:24.649+00:002011-03-05T16:02:24.649+00:00Probably James Reed realised the vote was going to...Probably James Reed realised the vote was going to get passed by the House and felt conflicted. Depending on the final TOR's he could be forced to explain his protection of a certain Senior Civil Servant in his Department.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-77889343231158171102011-03-05T13:41:10.512+00:002011-03-05T13:41:10.512+00:00Still don't know why James Reed abstained?Still don't know why James Reed abstained?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-67497953819755448192011-03-05T01:27:22.379+00:002011-03-05T01:27:22.379+00:00Hi VFC.
Just put up some Audio from the COI Debat...Hi VFC.<br /><br />Just put up some Audio from the COI Debate.<br /><br />You & your reader's can Listen <a href="http://thejerseyway.blogspot.com/2011/03/4-principled-politicians-that-did-speak.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a>thejerseywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02401815536804277436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-14451342769261524482011-03-04T18:44:18.117+00:002011-03-04T18:44:18.117+00:00Rob Duhamel<a href="http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/documents/hansard/24890-20336-2822011.htm#_Toc286654240" rel="nofollow">Rob Duhamel</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-68329560125246584922011-03-04T18:43:00.972+00:002011-03-04T18:43:00.972+00:00Rob Duhamel<a href="http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/documents/hansard/24890-20336-2822011.htm#_Toc286654240" rel="nofollow">Rob Duhamel</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-25355901465939869572011-03-03T19:07:12.516+00:002011-03-03T19:07:12.516+00:00TLS was a disgrace on the radio this morning. I co...TLS was a disgrace on the radio this morning. I couldnt believe my ears, he is meant to be an old man not a kid who has just pushed his toys out the pram. Yet, that is what his talk came accross as. <br /><br />Money is allways found when it suits him and his little followers so his toys out the pram rubbish just shows him up as a complete idiot. What must outsiders in power think when they hear him speak. It still makes me embarassed that he is meant to be a leader. He is a joke, and I suspect many of his minions know it as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-91148800392022100882011-03-03T13:40:45.666+00:002011-03-03T13:40:45.666+00:00Listening to Deputy Jeunes speech she says '&#...Listening to Deputy Jeunes speech she says ''Sir I thank the minister of health for raising the issues of the reach of a COI, but what that reach would be and my understanding from the Attorney General is it wont have the ability to ensure people outside of the Island can be made to turn up & give there contribution.''<br /><br />I think a similar statement was given with regard to a previous police chief and his deputy stating the AG sais we cannot enforce there attendance. <br /><br />Has it been decided allready who can and cannot submit or contribute?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-48523201504502605982011-03-03T11:20:06.177+00:002011-03-03T11:20:06.177+00:00Martin.
It will be the Council of Ministers that ...Martin.<br /><br />It will be the Council of Ministers that will draw up the TOR's they will then have to be voted on by the States.<br /><br />You can be sure they will do all they can to narrow the remit of the COI but it is open to other members to bring amendments to the proposition/TOR.<br /><br />The COCF, as I said earlier CAN be used and it will be up to ALL States members to ensure the right TOR's are put in place, not just Ozouf and the AG.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-15122415406078228462011-03-03T11:07:55.488+00:002011-03-03T11:07:55.488+00:00dear vfc
do you belive that the ag or ozouf...dear vfc<br /> do you belive that the ag or ozouf are going to go with terms unless its what they want sorry just cant see this getting started i hope and pray im wrong martinmartinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-61448773980423556592011-03-03T10:25:53.953+00:002011-03-03T10:25:53.953+00:00Martin.
This is why it is essential that any Comm...Martin.<br /><br />This is why it is essential that any Committee of Inquiry should have in its Terms of Reference the Role played by the "accredited" media.<br /><br />They have allowed so much mis-information to be peddled, and peddled it themselves that's without mentioning what they might have covered up.<br /><br />The truth about the funding for the COI is that the COCF CAN be used, the Tax payer wouldn't have to pay a penny. The treasury Minister and AG have said that a final decision will depend on its Terms of Reference.<br /><br />By the likes of the BBC allowing Terry Le Sueur to say the tax payers are going to have to foot the bill is at best shoddy "journalism". At worst it could be a deliberate scare tactic that will build resentment against the Abuse Survivors, that the BBC are happy to peddle.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-89537320587926661132011-03-03T10:06:03.825+00:002011-03-03T10:06:03.825+00:00dear vfc
i see tls played he,s get out of inquiry ...dear vfc<br />i see tls played he,s get out of inquiry card on bbc jersey this morn ie if we have an inquiry gst tax,s will have to go up if we have a full inquiry the states will not vote for more tax,s so it will not be much of an inqiry or none at all why has none of the big news papers got on to this. there seem,s to be only one way left to deal with tls and hes fsl rope and drop come to mind martinmartinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-55690236290485353402011-03-03T00:02:13.071+00:002011-03-03T00:02:13.071+00:00Hi VFC.
just put the Audio up of Deputy Jeune Spe...Hi VFC.<br /><br />just put the Audio up of Deputy Jeune Speach.<br /><br />You just couldn't make it up.<br /><br />Have a Listen <a href="http://thejerseyway.blogspot.com/2011/03/deputy-jeune-woman-of-princible.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a>thejerseywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02401815536804277436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-13490564486205633502011-03-02T19:44:33.231+00:002011-03-02T19:44:33.231+00:00I believe that Reed abstained because he didn'...I believe that Reed abstained because he didn't want to go against the CoM's but also to show the CoM's he was not for the Inquiry....Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-42207989440123379802011-03-02T19:19:47.522+00:002011-03-02T19:19:47.522+00:00James Reed was dead against any Committee of Inqui...James Reed was dead against any Committee of Inquiry and even spoke against it, why he abstained is a mystery coz he voted against everything else, in Bob Hill's and Montfort Tadier's amendments.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-81939488754309985642011-03-02T19:12:48.832+00:002011-03-02T19:12:48.832+00:00Why did Deputy Reed of St Ouen abstain? Perhaps th...Why did Deputy Reed of St Ouen abstain? Perhaps the ponytailed resident who collared him at the last parish assembly moved his mind a bit in the right directionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-30875766490262425602011-03-02T19:04:56.155+00:002011-03-02T19:04:56.155+00:00Interesting to see Mike Jackson voted POUR. I emai...Interesting to see Mike Jackson voted POUR. I emailed him, and stressed the nature of civic virtue, of politicians supporting their promises - and the dangers of not doing so in an election year!<br /><br />"Spud" Murphy (as I used to know him in the 1960s and 1970s, before he went upmarket and became "Dan" is not surprising.TonyTheProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10486414706261508994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-16792974373694153292011-03-02T17:49:04.986+00:002011-03-02T17:49:04.986+00:00"And let's not forget KEN VIBERT
Who abst..."And let's not forget KEN VIBERT<br />Who abstained<br />Why?"<br /><br />It was actually the Education Minister Deputy Reed that abstained.<br /><br />"Does it mean that a CoI can only consider the four points adopted or can other things be added? "<br /><br />Other things can be added, I believe the Council of Ministers now have to lodge a Report and Proposition with Terms of Reference to be debated, and voted on in the States.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-74543223736292670852011-03-02T17:03:16.577+00:002011-03-02T17:03:16.577+00:00A show of an inquiry will take place.
Mistakes we...A show of an inquiry will take place.<br /><br />Mistakes were made. Every care will be taken to see this does not happen again. lessons have been learnt move on.<br /><br />Front page cover story in the JEP pat themselves on the back all done and dusted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-29865636918516186952011-03-02T16:58:08.861+00:002011-03-02T16:58:08.861+00:00Here was me thinking States members were doing the...Here was me thinking States members were doing the right thing.<br /><br />Did they vote for COI knowing Deputy Hills ammendments would get knocked back. I guess so. <br /><br />What about impartiality amongst those with responsibility to make the decision on what is allowed in or out of this inquiry?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com