tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post7685245781690822718..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Stuart Syvret and VFC Discuss "The Jersey Situation."voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger397125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-26957560965409470362019-02-18T16:22:41.222+00:002019-02-18T16:22:41.222+00:00Jersey child protection blogs are often subjected ...Jersey child protection blogs are often subjected to persistent "Paedo-Trolling".<br /><br />VFC is a strong exponent of free speech and wherever possible gives everyone their say but without allowing his blog to get swamped by pro-paedophile trolling. <br /><br />It transpires that this blog posting now has over 400 comments published but if all comments submitted had been fit for publication the blog would have well over 600 comments!<br /><br />http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2019/02/royal-square-rally-16-feb-2019.html?showComment=1550390538312#c5865262428729116947<br /><br />There remain a disturbing number of people in Jersey who remain determined to attack child protection campaigners and oppose or undermine their work.<br /><br />The motivations of these people are disturbing.How and Why Child Abuse and Corruption happen and go unchecked...…….http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2015/05/jersey-child-abuse-inquiry-and-william.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-84570855764756937962019-02-12T09:50:34.029+00:002019-02-12T09:50:34.029+00:00Yes. Yes. Yes !
Please someone ask the Minister f...Yes. Yes. Yes !<br /><br />Please someone ask the Minister for Children what he is actually for!!!<br /><br /><br />P.S.<br />I think this is VFC's 400th comment on this blog posting so I expect that readers will need to click "Load more..." again (right at the bottom)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-41645400346198825842019-02-12T09:36:01.381+00:002019-02-12T09:36:01.381+00:00I confess I was a little mischievous with my 09:46...I confess I was a little mischievous with my 09:46 comment:<br /><br />"We have had 10 years<br />…… a £23,000,000 CoI<br />…… a Children's Minister<br />…… a Children's Commissioner<br />…… a multi £million compensation scheme (mostly awarded to lawyers)"<br /><br />The more astute readers will have realised that the above are little more than window dressing. Variously …...diversion ….embezzlement ...delay …...kicking the can down the road ….fig-leaf and 'headline' appointments to instead of actual progress.<br /><br />A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. So it is with these Tsars of child protection. Even if they were to possess the skills, oversight and *commitment*, there is only so much they could achieve under the same broken political and legal system which saw the Health minister sacked a derided twelve years ago for stating that Jersey's children's services were not fit for purpose.<br /><br />Nothing has changed<br />"….. the prosecution of abusers ?<br />…… mandatory reporting ?<br />…… independent and courageous policing ?<br />…… the rule of law ?<br />…… actual child protection ?"<br />all remain non-existent or fragmentary at best.<br /><br />As for these "Tsars of child protection", the Children's Commissioner and the Children's Minister<br /><br />How long have they been in office and what have they achieved?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-14081397626890293372019-02-12T07:43:20.566+00:002019-02-12T07:43:20.566+00:00Time to raise these points with the Minister for C...Time to raise these points with the Minister for Children if this is how people think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-25088797865161593202019-02-11T18:38:28.189+00:002019-02-11T18:38:28.189+00:00It is said: -
"Come, come Stuart
We have ha...It is said: - <br /><br />"Come, come Stuart<br />We have had 10 years<br />…… a £23,000,000 CoI<br />…… a Children's Minister<br />…… a Children's Commissioner<br />…… a multi £million compensation scheme (mostly awarded to lawyers)<br /><br />What do you expect ???<br />…… the prosecution of abusers ?<br />…… mandatory reporting ?<br />…… independent and courageous policing ?<br />…… the rule of law ?<br />…… actual child protection ?<br /><br />May I remind you that this is still Jersey."<br /><br />Indeed. This is still Jersey - and all which is implied and historic and knowable to the curious by that phrase. <br /><br />As was observed by Jersey citizen-activists many years ago, "Never Underestimate The Stupidity Of The Jersey Oligarchy."<br /><br />Informed discussion today revolves around whether, and the extent to which, the mitigation-pleadings should be accommodated in the cases of the hundreds of lower-grade conspirators in Jersey - and the UK - in the event they turn 'state-evidence'? As they are assuredly well-advised to.<br /><br />After all - The-Jersey-Situation is so extraordinary - and seismic - it's already being studied by experts globally as a "black-swan-event." <br /><br />Stuart SyvretEx-Senator Stuart Syvrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133826278608795054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-853152392003252332019-02-11T16:46:14.518+00:002019-02-11T16:46:14.518+00:00Do a Blog on your contribution to the protection o...Do a Blog on your contribution to the protection of children over the past 10 years.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-87750934115356080982019-02-11T09:46:35.441+00:002019-02-11T09:46:35.441+00:00Come, come Stuart
We have had 10 years
…… a £23,00...Come, come Stuart<br />We have had 10 years<br />…… a £23,000,000 CoI<br />…… a Children's Minister<br />…… a Children's Commissioner<br />…… a multi £million compensation scheme (mostly awarded to lawyers)<br /><br />What do you expect ???<br />…… the prosecution of abusers ?<br />…… mandatory reporting ?<br />…… independent and courageous policing ?<br />…… the rule of law ?<br />…… actual child protection ?<br /><br />May I remind you that this is still Jersey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-5222727782439897052019-02-10T19:39:04.016+00:002019-02-10T19:39:04.016+00:00That's great news. I'm sure it will be a v...That's great news. I'm sure it will be a very important contribution towards real & effective child-protection. <br /><br />Keep up the good work.<br /><br />No retreat. No surrender.<br /><br />Stuart Ex-Senator Stuart Syvrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133826278608795054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-52345860677562995112019-02-10T18:34:12.539+00:002019-02-10T18:34:12.539+00:00:-):-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-19770132931949167592019-02-10T18:31:21.631+00:002019-02-10T18:31:21.631+00:00Hope to have a new Blog Posting up on Tues/Wed.Hope to have a new Blog Posting up on Tues/Wed.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-86521451843880523242019-02-10T13:10:19.084+00:002019-02-10T13:10:19.084+00:00Strange how they have had nothing to say about the...Strange how they have had nothing to say about the mass election law breaking. What does that tell us my friend? How about a PPC report on why WE shouldn't be prosecuted?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-24814818482255735932019-02-10T13:04:22.673+00:002019-02-10T13:04:22.673+00:00You mean PPC really exists?You mean PPC really exists?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-83792629024890399772019-02-10T12:57:09.398+00:002019-02-10T12:57:09.398+00:00Time for a new post for sure now. All the comments...Time for a new post for sure now. All the comments here are relevant and many really excellent insights. But if Jersey is to ever change then we need to know what PPC are doing to implement the huge flaws identified when we had the Commonwealth election observers here. A damning report was made even though it obviously didn't go into the wider details often highlighted here. Have you thought about asking the PPC Chairman for an interview? If he won't speak to you then that in itself probably tells us all we need to know. That being that nothing will be done just like with Clothier and so on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-49743229907707547752019-02-05T07:09:02.589+00:002019-02-05T07:09:02.589+00:00It is worse than mere anarchy.
A clique in contro...It is worse than mere anarchy.<br /><br />A clique in control of the island mini-state has taken the law and actually used it to protect criminals, rapists and child abusers from within their midst.<br /><br />The UK and even the office of the crown has been drawn into this toxic mire. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-47684321454326559472019-02-04T20:50:04.059+00:002019-02-04T20:50:04.059+00:00It is said above that: -
"The events were *...It is said above that: - <br /><br />"The events were *that* crazy."<br /><br />They sure were. <br /><br />But, you know what? I think the events were even crazier than that. Even crazier. <br /><br />I think we're contemplating something that could be essentially the melt-down of a state. <br /><br />We're in the middle of all this now, like being caught-up in an avalanche. <br /><br />There is no "controlling-mind" behind all this, rather this is actual anarchy - and no-one is in control - and no-one knows how this ends. <br /><br />The Jersey Situation is what happens when a state chooses - actually chooses - to embrace frank anarchy. <br /><br />Stuart SyvretEx-Senator Stuart Syvrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133826278608795054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-12676150510714692302019-02-04T20:15:35.820+00:002019-02-04T20:15:35.820+00:00Sinel calls a spade a spade. He is probably one of...Sinel calls a spade a spade. He is probably one of the best lawyers on the island. He tells it how it is.<br /><br />Iselin Jones, BA(Hons), MA, LLB, and Professor Phil Palmer LLB, MA have written a more 'political' document aimed at steering the boat back to safe waters rather than rocking it.<br />The document is riddled with hints and barely shrouded "concerns" but some things (like the exclusion of Syvret from the CoI) they state quite clearly. <br />But will this be enough when Jersey still has deeply invested criminals at the helm?<br /><br />As for the rest of Jersey Lawyers, it appears that Iselin Jones has more balls than the rest of them put together.<br />How very embarrassing for them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-35914031404590847452019-02-04T19:56:25.882+00:002019-02-04T19:56:25.882+00:00You are forgetting Advocate Sinel @19:02
Barriste...You are forgetting Advocate Sinel @19:02<br /><br />Barrister - England and Wales (1984)<br />Jersey Advocate (1987)<br />Attorney-at-Law – Anguilla (2002)<br />Rights of Audience and to Conduct Litigation - Dubai (2008)<br /><br />Founder of Philip Sinel & Co. Advocate <br /><br />www.sinels.com/site/people/profile/philip.sinelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-71920372563625073722019-02-04T19:02:46.217+00:002019-02-04T19:02:46.217+00:00I must say it has to be very gratifying and reassu...I must say it has to be very gratifying and reassuring to all those people who kept faith with Stuart Syvret's implacable refusal to accept anything less than procedures which possessed vires. He was right all along that the way in which your public inquiry was run was ultra vires. <br /><br />To have that fact effectively confirmed by two such learned individuals as Iselin Jones, BA(Hons), MA, LLB, and Phil Palmer LLB, MA shows the intellectual rigger of 'our side'. <br /><br />So, is everything in the garden rosy now? Pats on the head and smugness all round? Dust settling? I suspect not. It was clear at the time when the madness was in full flight that these events could have no ending which was not seismic. <br /><br />The events were *that* crazy. <br /><br />I think it was Syvret himself who first described The Jersey Situation as qualitatively and quantitatively 'worse-than-Watergate'. It was obvious even back then he was right. <br /><br />A state-event worse-than-watergate must, perforce, have a reckoning. If, that is, the notion of the rule-of-law means anything in Britain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-27077936005280979842019-02-04T11:01:46.292+00:002019-02-04T11:01:46.292+00:00The paper was co-authored by Iselin Jones, BA(Hons...The paper was co-authored by Iselin Jones, BA(Hons), MA, LLB, who currently works for Corbett Le Quesne in Jersey.<br /><br />@9:01 "Phil Palmer LLB, MA."<br />Indeed. In addition Phil Palmer is a professor at the Institute of Law Jersey.<br /><br />Also off www.southampton.ac.uk/icjr/members/members.page<br />"Phil Palmer is a Senior Lecturer in Southampton Law School. Phil has a background in operational policing and policing policy. In 1997 he was one of the founder members of the National Police Operations Faculty where he was Head of Crime and Disorder Reduction. In 2001 he was appointed as the Visiting Scholar of Policing at the City University of New York. Between 2002 and 2004 he was Deputy Head of the National Crime and Operations Faculty and in 2004 was appointed as Head of Public Reassurance for the National Centre for Policing Excellence. Phil has been a member of several Association of Chief Police Officer (ACPO) working groups, and until recently was part of the Home Office Race for Justice steering group. He has delivered training and operational advice on policing and related criminal justice issues in over 20 countries. He has been published in a variety of Law Enforcement journals in the UK, Europe and USA."<br /><br />Also www.gta.gg/about-us/our-tutors/institute-law-jersey/<br />"Phil Palmer LLB, MA started his career in the Royal Navy then served as a police officer in the Hampshire Constabulary, becoming Head of Public Protection at the National Centre for Policing. He is currently Director of the Institute of Criminal Justice at the University of Southampton where he teaches criminal and researches into policing and counter-terrorism. Phil leads study weekends in Torts, Criminal Law and Common Law Reasoning and Institutions."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-75228690726790974092019-02-04T09:01:15.607+00:002019-02-04T09:01:15.607+00:00Phil Palmer LLB, MA.Phil Palmer LLB, MA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-77323979909150816522019-02-04T07:38:53.866+00:002019-02-04T07:38:53.866+00:00Yes. Maybe a write up on the Jersey Law Society pu...Yes. Maybe a write up on the Jersey Law Society publication<br /><br />www.jerseylaw.je/publications/Documents/IoLJournal/2018_1/TheJerseyWayMovingOn.pdf<br /><br />Don't forget to mention that both authors and also the publishers have credentials.<br /><br />This document is a long overdue first step by the jersey legal profession.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-80203529654793497082019-02-03T10:37:54.697+00:002019-02-03T10:37:54.697+00:00New post!!!!New post!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-84050765227075720622019-02-01T14:46:03.717+00:002019-02-01T14:46:03.717+00:00Why such a quitter?
& why this desperation to ...Why such a quitter?<br />& why this desperation to know commenter's 'credentials'?<br /><br />One can judge the quality of a comment by it's content and indeed the ability of the writer to backup any claims with facts and evidence.<br /><br />Some people are unable to appreciate the seriousness of decades of state sponsored child abuse and paedophilia or imagine that an expensive CoI and a Children's Minister somehow make children safe now without any changes to the actual structures which enabled the abuse over those decades!<br /><br />Knowing a writer's identity makes not one jot of difference to the validity of a comment.<br /><br />If the island's TOP LAWYER left a comment (complete with credentials), would it hold weight by virtue of his position as Bailiff?<br />Or might it be judged on it's actual merit like this hogwash:<br /><br />http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2015/05/jersey-child-abuse-inquiry-and-william.html<br /><br />I would suggest @09:32 that you are getting fixated on diversionary detail and wonder if you have given any thought to the moral and ongoing child protection implications of your suggestion that "We may as well all throw the towel in".<br /><br />Further @09:32 it is clearly not just "Lawyers [who] are too scared to even put their names"<br />-clearly most of us are, *you included*.<br /><br />The fact that such a vast majority of the comments on these child protection blogs is testament to the continuing toxic environment in jersey.<br /><br />How can we imagine that children are somehow safe if even adults are too scared to comment under their full identity?<br /><br />Also with the decades of state sponsored child abuse and paedophilia there clearly are serious and deep seated issues -so any "claims against the Jersey Justice System" warrant credible rebuttal rather than endless diversion.<br /><br />In addition to the lawyers (both identified and unidentified) we also have statements by persons including the Health Minister, the Chief of Police and the Deputy Chief of Police.<br /><br />What more do you want?Janet not Jonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-14955970804210933762019-02-01T12:23:45.106+00:002019-02-01T12:23:45.106+00:00Why can't I get odds on the outcome of the upc...Why can't I get odds on the outcome of the upcoming by-election at Ladbrooks? Do you have to go to a particular bookies anyone know? Wanted to put a tenner on Anthony Lewis. Don't want him elected. Just think he will win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-41295906585509358732019-02-01T12:02:55.796+00:002019-02-01T12:02:55.796+00:00Tony Blair the man who betrayed working people eve...Tony Blair the man who betrayed working people even more than Thatcher says social media is "the medium of the loudmouth".<br /><br />What he really means is he doesn't like it because it gives a voice to those outside of political and money-based power. #torywarcriminalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com