tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post7995286182209303541..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Stuart Syvret, Super-Injunction, and State Media.voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-40056945537168019512013-09-09T00:18:39.424+01:002013-09-09T00:18:39.424+01:00I can imagine PB making some kind of excuse not to...I can imagine PB making some kind of excuse not to stand again as he really doesn't like being questioned, does he?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-6037701859390437492013-09-08T09:58:32.007+01:002013-09-08T09:58:32.007+01:00Tom Gruchy.
Gossip to be a criminal offence in JE...Tom Gruchy.<br /><br />Gossip to be a criminal offence in <a href="http://voiceforprotest.blogspot.com/2010/03/gossip-to-be-criminal-offence-in-jersey.html" rel="nofollow">JERSEY</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-42266125065889830182013-09-08T09:10:33.518+01:002013-09-08T09:10:33.518+01:00It will be interesting to see whether the Social S...It will be interesting to see whether the Social Security Appeal Tribunal hearing scheduled for 2pm Friday 13 September is open to the public - bearing in mind the Judge's words re Syvret and the need for such hearings to take place in public except in exceptional cases.<br />This is supposed to be open to the public but generally such Tribunals are held in secret because the scrutiny of government administration tends to look rather shoddy when examined critically.<br />The location is the JET premises at 1st floor behind the Ann Summers shop in Bath Street so do turn up if you have the time and interest. You might be allowed to express a "public interest" view if the shutters come down on this occasion....Tom Gruchyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01384387998228996741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-61322765423823334852013-09-08T01:18:49.774+01:002013-09-08T01:18:49.774+01:00Tom Gruchy,
Could you, or anyone who is familiar ...Tom Gruchy, <br />Could you, or anyone who is familiar with the proceedings, please provide more on the use of the English precedents used? This is an ominous case if it has precedent in the UK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-197297503351575862013-09-07T22:41:09.925+01:002013-09-07T22:41:09.925+01:00In this secret court hearing the lawyers had to ci...In this secret court hearing the lawyers had to cite English precedents on Data protection because there were no Jersey ones.<br />Now of course Jersey has set its own standard by this judgement which will no doubt be argued over in future English cases as "persuasive" too. So it may well be "overturned" without any Jersey participation or effort...<br />However, that "Gossip" was set to become "a criminal offence in Jersey" by virtue of the Data Protection law was the subject of a posting on "Voice for Protest" 3 March 2010, so nothing should really come as a surprize, not even the avalanche that must engulf us all eventually.Tom Gruchyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01384387998228996741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-43912928763110815102013-09-07T21:39:42.787+01:002013-09-07T21:39:42.787+01:00This is very serious. Can we all now bring an acti...<a href="http://ricosorda.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/jersey-evening-post-implications-of.html" rel="nofollow">This is very serious. Can we all now bring an action against the MSN if the mis-repsent us?</a><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-85124279775468395032013-09-07T21:37:10.148+01:002013-09-07T21:37:10.148+01:00Thanks.
Here is THE LINKThanks.<br /><br />Here is <a href="http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2013/09/jersey-evening-post-implications-of.html" rel="nofollow">THE LINK</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-37411402088963013332013-09-07T21:33:53.961+01:002013-09-07T21:33:53.961+01:00http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/Thi...http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/This%20is%20very%20serious.%20Can%20we%20all%20now%20bring%20an%20action%20against%20the%20MSM%20if%20they%20mis-repsent%20us?<br /><br />Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-37634443913138352332013-09-07T20:36:04.836+01:002013-09-07T20:36:04.836+01:00This is very serious. Can we all now bring an acti...<a href="This%20is%20very%20serious.%20Can%20we%20all%20now%20bring%20an%20action%20against%20the%20MSM%20if%20they%20mis-repsent%20us?" rel="nofollow">This is very serious. Can we all now bring an action against the MSM if they mis-repsent us?</a><br /><br />Today's JEP and the implications of the actions of Emma Martins and Data Protection<br /><br />rsrico sordahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09370637157786202673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-7979968348204888392013-09-07T20:29:21.857+01:002013-09-07T20:29:21.857+01:00Yes, that is an excellent and informative descript...Yes, that is an excellent and informative description of the current options for those championing free speech. <br /><br />This is why the Jersey Way of employing a selectively class-based, feudalistic interpretation of law is no longer a secret, and why Jersey's unjustifiable investment in silencing Stuart Syvret never payed off. The old guard do not fully comprehend the global internet's impact on their own future and even the local main stream media act like it's still 1995. <br /><br />Once upon a time Jersey's ruling elite understood and controlled the most politically sensitive information, keeping the rest of the Island in a bubble. Now the bubble contains those in power and the mainstream media can only learn vital news from bloggers. As they say, information is power, and that power is no longer local for any ruling elite in the west.<br /><br />The challenge for Jersey's oligarchs will now be to prevent outsiders from becoming interested and well-informed, whilst keeping a broad segment of the local population utterly ignorant, apathetic or misinformed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-65057186775221448312013-09-07T19:53:00.891+01:002013-09-07T19:53:00.891+01:00Rob.
Very informative comment and links. Thanks.Rob.<br /><br />Very informative comment and links. Thanks.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-73722994720236651832013-09-07T16:50:01.471+01:002013-09-07T16:50:01.471+01:00It is a quandary as to where he will stand, or how...It is a quandary as to where he will stand, or how he will get elected, but I've not heard that he won't stand. So far as I know it is only the disgraced Home Affairs Minister, Senator Ian Le Marquand, who has publicly stated that he won't be standing in the next election. I've got an idea as to where he will be spending his new -found <a href="http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2012/01/he-could-be-in-toilet.html" rel="nofollow">SPARE TIME</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-9762792905822067582013-09-07T16:39:36.272+01:002013-09-07T16:39:36.272+01:00Is it true that Ozouf said he wasn't standing ...Is it true that Ozouf said he wasn't standing again anyhow?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-56247973095429412502013-09-07T11:42:01.641+01:002013-09-07T11:42:01.641+01:00The last time the disgraced Jersey Evening Post ca...The last time the disgraced Jersey Evening Post came out with its "allegations without substance" Rico Sorda challenged it to "put up or shut up"...............It <a href="http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/09/john-hemming-jep-and-bloggers-challenge.html" rel="nofollow">DECLINED HIS OFFER</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-85342943086631284652013-09-07T11:16:22.101+01:002013-09-07T11:16:22.101+01:00If THIS is what can happen, in the open, one can o...If <a href="http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-snapshot-of-jersey.html" rel="nofollow">THIS</a> is what can happen, in the open, one can only imagine what is going on in secret and the State Media is keeping under wraps.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-13923352467450642432013-09-07T11:04:35.773+01:002013-09-07T11:04:35.773+01:00The biggest radical shake up needed on this Island...The biggest radical shake up needed on this Island is a MSM that doesn't betray its public and a fit for purpose justice systemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-43798782574338461592013-09-07T10:43:16.817+01:002013-09-07T10:43:16.817+01:00I don't believe the public of Jersey deserve ...I don't believe the public of Jersey deserve Stuart Syvret. I still don't believe that the public of Jersey fully understands Stuart Syvret or what he has been telling them for years. What can SS achieve by becoming a States Member? Only a radical shake up of the states can lead the way for someone like stuart to be influential. If the States of Jersey is to radically change then two things need to happen. Senator Philip Ozouf and Senator Philip Bailhache need to be voted out. Then and only then you will see overnight change.<br /><br />The loss of Ozouf is pivotal. <br /><br />rsrico sordahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09370637157786202673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-2341324132510238982013-09-07T09:52:52.693+01:002013-09-07T09:52:52.693+01:00Well done Stuart.
Now please when the elections c...Well done Stuart. <br />Now please when the elections come round stand, people want and need you in the States.<br />All the lies that bailhache has come out with since being in the states and they have been proved to be lies we need honest members who believe in looking after the public of this island. There is only you who stands against the corrupt establishment party that is ruining this island and it's people.TROJAN HORSEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18433584454217301150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-73820290413615367212013-09-06T23:41:02.711+01:002013-09-06T23:41:02.711+01:00Do I understand this; if the 'libel' had b...Do I understand this; if the 'libel' had been in pamphlets left around town in pubs and coffee shops, then it would have been totally different? i.e. just because a computer was involved (scary word 'blog', to these backwards oligarchs) it's assumed to be a matter for the Data Protection Law? Even though the DP Law wasn't supposed to be used for anything like that?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-27910154737078606042013-09-06T23:11:27.171+01:002013-09-06T23:11:27.171+01:00Thanks for making sense out of a prosecution case ...Thanks for making sense out of a prosecution case which had been senseless in the first place. This is getting some play internationally, I see. It's even up on Jonathan (Lord Bonkers) Calder's blog. Well done. This is a case which should send shivers down the spines of anyone, anywhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-3570495151328213732013-09-06T22:34:27.507+01:002013-09-06T22:34:27.507+01:00My most important ever posting, and just for the s...My most important ever posting, and just for the survival of <a href="http://therightofreply.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-video-that-will-change-your-life.html" rel="nofollow">HUMANKIND</a> Wake the hell up sheep!!!Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-1680046790447053752013-09-06T22:26:19.466+01:002013-09-06T22:26:19.466+01:00VFC - more great stuff. Keep it up
Trevor - thank...VFC - more great stuff. Keep it up<br /><br />Trevor - thanks for that very clear exposition above.<br /><br />Pólóhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08661092894104384856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-12817261913878402662013-09-06T22:01:17.375+01:002013-09-06T22:01:17.375+01:00A further question for resders to consider.
What ...A further question for resders to consider.<br /><br />What will happen if - and it must be 'when' really - the Independent Child abuse Inquiry takes place and it emerges that one of those who has 'won' his case will actually have more than a dozen people coming forward to give evidence against him relating to allegations of abuse under States care?Trevor Pitmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15197434138079787935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-52769961739041515962013-09-06T21:57:17.113+01:002013-09-06T21:57:17.113+01:00Knowing rather a lot about defamation I would just...Knowing rather a lot about defamation I would just add that this really WAS nothing more than a defamation/libel case. The Data Protection Law was thus wholly inappropriate to be used for this.The only explanation can be that it was used out of convenience to get a desired result.<br /><br />What also has to be asked here is why did none of the four have to spend their own money as we had to and why was one of the four - a revolting little petty criminal despised by all - allowed to jump on the bandwagon of the others when it appears everything Stuart Syvret had said about him was true?<br /><br />Which brings us to the point that the same little drunken yob spends his whole 'life' on the net spreading defamatory lies about other people - including Stuart Syvret who he was given taxpayers' money to prosecute!Trevor Pitmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15197434138079787935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-37382237138077347312013-09-06T21:27:52.278+01:002013-09-06T21:27:52.278+01:00One of your readers - who claims to be an "ex...One of your readers - who claims to be an "ex-Jersey journalist" - says: - <br /><br />"You can't just post articles calling someone a child abuse concealer and anyone who thinks the internet is a way of bypassing libel laws needs to wake up."<br /><br />Oh, but you can post articles calling someone a child-abuse concealer; indeed, you can say such things - you can broadcast them - you can publish them in traditional newspapers - you can write them in books.<br /><br />And if the target disputes the claims - their remedy is a defamation claim. Which is a private-law remedy - that has precisely zero to do with the Data Protection Law. <br /><br />And if the person you have posted is a child-abuse concealer - is, in fact, a child-abuse concealer - and you have evidence that shows that to be the case - and /or witnesses you can call who would testify to that being the case - then - you win - they lose.<br /><br />Simples.<br /><br />That is the settled law.<br /><br />It's a private remedy - between private individuals - and there is zero legitimate role for state - tax-payer-funded - involvement. <br /><br />Stuart Ex-Senator Stuart Syvrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133826278608795054noreply@blogger.com