tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post9095411967756137719..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Jersey Child Abuse Inquiry (Costs).voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-2727672632905011042015-03-04T14:01:58.275+00:002015-03-04T14:01:58.275+00:00Shona's proposition is here:
http://www.states...Shona's proposition is here:<br />http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/AssemblyPropositions/2008/1158-14970-2562008.pdf<br /><br />The debate is here - and go to page 55<br />http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/AssemblyHansard/2008/23997-33952.pdf<br /><br />Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-87236315161808142682015-03-02T13:43:27.772+00:002015-03-02T13:43:27.772+00:00So, assuming that Sir Philip Bailhache and other c...So, assuming that Sir Philip Bailhache and other conflicted States members succeed in shutting down or emasculating the public inquiry into their child-abuse cover-ups by constraining the funding to unrealistic levels, what is the plan-b of the Jersey campaign? It's a foregone conclusion they're going to win, so what then? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-80380457386819957402015-03-02T12:39:42.053+00:002015-03-02T12:39:42.053+00:00Looked at Planet Jersey. TBH it's a mess. It&#...Looked at Planet Jersey. TBH it's a mess. It's a chaotic site, hard to find current relevant posts and comments in amongst mass of headings and topics a lot of which look very parochial and/or very dated. I'm saying this as honest advice from an international reader who supports Jersey social media. The Planet Jersey team need to get their heads together and radically overhaul that site if you want it to be attractive and easy to find your way around. For sure there's a lot of important archive material there, but you have to do more to differentiate current topic discussions and debates from the mass of diverse and archive subjects. I looked up Planet Jersey because of the these references to it, and not only couldn't find the thread mentioned, but got completely lost and bored with the mess in 60 seconds. A pity because it should be a really good forum and resource for public knowledge and empowerment. Time for a very major re-think guys. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-83990173284420580982015-03-02T11:34:22.909+00:002015-03-02T11:34:22.909+00:00Do you know if anyone brought up Bailhache's s...Do you know if anyone brought up Bailhache's scaremongering at the 'Any questions?' event? I couldn't go as my dress wasn't back from the cleaners.Sue Young (Mr)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-6190493217752540572015-03-02T11:28:40.614+00:002015-03-02T11:28:40.614+00:00Running scared.Running scared.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-44824341851583390632015-03-02T11:18:01.734+00:002015-03-02T11:18:01.734+00:00Not until we get a Chief Minister with balls bigge...Not until we get a Chief Minister with balls bigger than his chin. It should still be flagged up for the inquiry though. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-40549193340240480282015-03-02T10:43:54.481+00:002015-03-02T10:43:54.481+00:00It looks like the JEP has another satisfied reader...It looks like the JEP has another satisfied reader - http://jersey-evening-post.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-53626936530047942302015-03-02T09:26:41.203+00:002015-03-02T09:26:41.203+00:00Bailhache will have this inquiry closed by Easter ...Bailhache will have this inquiry closed by Easter if he gets his way and funny how they started moaning about costs after the Lundy evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-13241780793033855142015-03-02T07:01:07.408+00:002015-03-02T07:01:07.408+00:00Hi Anons @13:43 & 13:47
I thought I was polite...Hi Anons @13:43 & 13:47<br />I thought I was polite and reasonable but opinions and viewpoints will vary.<br />I certainly am not going to trade unkind words with people I largely agree with, or whom this 'party' is in honour of.<br />Sorry if I do not always make my points well or clearly.<br /><br />The Team Voice blogs go from strength to strength and generally the more important the post the more heavily the forces of evil and their JEP hypnotised followers attempt to troll and disrupt (see @20:17 below).<br />http://therightofreply.blogspot.com/2012/04/another-reminder-of-jerseys-freaks.html<br /><br />IMO commenters such as above@10:21 (if genuine) should be welcomed because it gives us/VFC opportunity to to put them right on the facts and the basic moral principles.<br />In this way the battle for hearts and minds can be won. The prize is a more stable, happy, just and affluent island where everyone has opportunity and where children and the most vulnerable can at last be safe.<br /><br />Is that too much to ask for?<br /><br />p.s. Do I sound like "Noisebag Ian"? (Bless him and his occasional good work)The truth hurts (and heals this island)http://therightofreply.blogspot.com/2012/04/another-reminder-of-jerseys-freaks.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-68029750766315603142015-03-01T20:53:37.484+00:002015-03-01T20:53:37.484+00:00Do either of these comments make sense or relate t...Do either of these comments make sense or relate to anything?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-77633638664926928342015-03-01T20:41:00.742+00:002015-03-01T20:41:00.742+00:00You must be an abuser because only an abuser could...You must be an abuser because only an abuser could show such a lack of empathy or emotion for victims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-33537036955683653562015-03-01T20:33:31.936+00:002015-03-01T20:33:31.936+00:00Not related, but, Planet Jersey is running on USA ...Not related, but, Planet Jersey is running on USA time for some reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-4409758670253491362015-03-01T20:17:18.814+00:002015-03-01T20:17:18.814+00:00"So you weren't raped or sodomised as a y..."So you weren't raped or sodomised as a young child be the people who were charged with your care? Perhaps you should talk to those who were and you might not be so quick to attempt to minimise what happened in recent years and the lives shattered because of it."<br /><br />Time to publically admit that you an abuse victim.<br />Nobody who was not an abuse victim would get so emotional online like you do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-11054146047199673332015-03-01T20:00:07.697+00:002015-03-01T20:00:07.697+00:00Can anything more be done about that incident? HG ...Can anything more be done about that incident? HG wants to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-76639571697581336432015-03-01T16:54:41.148+00:002015-03-01T16:54:41.148+00:00INDEED.<a href="http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2011/11/opinion-management.html" rel="nofollow">INDEED.</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-15397796022311672032015-03-01T16:30:02.952+00:002015-03-01T16:30:02.952+00:00A comment has been made on Planet Jersey re Terry ...A comment has been made on Planet Jersey re Terry McDonald & the Steve Quinn returning to Scotland case,beware your statements without contacting the "accused" as you do not know what is going on in the background & you might jepordise the support being given by Terry on this case which will soon be made known!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-73697129798952536312015-03-01T15:22:13.890+00:002015-03-01T15:22:13.890+00:00I thought there was a Scrutiny investigation which...I thought there was a Scrutiny investigation which exposed just how wrong the establishment media trashing of Operation Rectangle had been several years ago? Which begs the question why are some people still trying to perpetuate the negative myths now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-83689190574742772602015-03-01T13:47:30.486+00:002015-03-01T13:47:30.486+00:00Are you aware 'The Truth Hurts' That you a...Are you aware 'The Truth Hurts' That you are contradicting yourself, not making sense and criticizing someone who has been abused and objects to the obnoxious opinion of a non-survivor who is denigrating survivors?<br />You put me off reading the blog and commenting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-24348682068811939652015-03-01T13:43:58.814+00:002015-03-01T13:43:58.814+00:00so what's the difference between me, an abuse ...so what's the difference between me, an abuse survivor saying the unpleasant person is blaring their opinions and you echo chambering and tooth fairying?<br />Noisebag Ian?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-27777575953655643202015-03-01T13:02:40.837+00:002015-03-01T13:02:40.837+00:00Ah "Bailhachegate"? Now here was another...Ah "Bailhachegate"? Now here was another little episode revealing the great one's belief that he can do as he pleases for the inquiry to examine. Any UK or even US cabinet member would have been sacked. But not our Lord Bailhache.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-65098294736322730582015-03-01T12:47:16.628+00:002015-03-01T12:47:16.628+00:00I listened to that no confidence vote and I remain...I listened to that no confidence vote and I remain of the same opinion today that if one listens to what was said, or rather what wasn't said, by all but the proposer and a couple of other members it tells us exactly how the Jersey Way works. Of bailhache's failings barely a squeak of acknowledgement. Well worth finding on the States website if the transcript can be tracked down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-65715472616052327722015-03-01T12:45:43.020+00:002015-03-01T12:45:43.020+00:00@12:06
Please chill RE "blaring their opinion...@12:06<br />Please chill RE "blaring their opinions"<br />IMO you are partially right and I understand your anger.<br />These opinions are still valid (even though they may be complacent or mistaken/odious in some areas)<br /><br />This is an inclusive blog where new readers and a diversity of opinion are welcome. It is not an opinion management sitl like the JEPaedo site where inconvenient opinions are censored or shouted down by the resident protected trolls(s)<br /><br />@10:21 welcome<br />Have you come from the JEP "echo chamber" site, and have you anything to declare on leaving "Tooth-Fairyland"?The truth hurtshttp://therightofreply.blogspot.com/2012/04/another-reminder-of-jerseys-freaks.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-57845163996145389052015-03-01T12:06:44.697+00:002015-03-01T12:06:44.697+00:00There will always be complacant people who really ...There will always be complacant people who really do not know what abuse is, attention-seeking and blaring their opinions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-65531487515565156742015-03-01T11:37:42.922+00:002015-03-01T11:37:42.922+00:00"I cannot understand the shame of the fictiti..."I cannot understand the shame of the fictitious murder accusations of children in their care."<br /><br />How can you be so sure no children were murdered at HDLG?<br /><br />JAR/30: 3-4; 1940s to 1980s. Two fragments of burnt bone one is fragment of longbone? Tibia. Submitted to University of Sheffield with KSH/158. Origin confirmed as human. Submitted for dating awaiting results.<br /><br />JAR/33: 3-4; 1940s to 1980’s.<br />Calcined fragment of bone. ?human.<br /><br />JAR/53: 183. Cellar 3 Dark char rich deposit equivalent to 169.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />5 fragments of calcined long bone ?human.<br /><br />JAR/54: 183. Cellar 3 Dark char rich deposit equivalent to 169.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />4 fragments of calcined bone ?human.<br /><br />JAR/55: 183. Cellar 3 Dark char rich deposit equivalent to 169.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />1 fragment of calcined bone ?human.<br /><br />JAR/57:183. Cellar 3 Dark char rich deposit equivalent to 169.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />2 fragments of bone of unknown origin.<br /><br />JAR/56: 183. Cellar 3 Dark char rich deposit equivalent to 169.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />1 fragment of bone ?human.<br /><br />JAR/67: 183. Zone 3 East Cellar 3.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />Human Tooth: deciduous left maxillary first molar, age 9 yrs ± 3 yrs. Could have been shed naturally (Anthro exam).<br />Submitted to odontologist, see report.<br /><br />JAR/69: 183. Zone 3 East Cellar 3.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />Fragments x 3 of possible human cortical bone.<br /><br />JAR/61: 183 Zone 4 East Cellar 3.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />23 Fragments of bone:<br />1 Burnt fragment which closely resembles a human juvenile mastoid process.<br />2. Burnt fragment of ?human mandible.<br />3. Fragments of burnt long bone x 3 measuring between 11.3 and 16.3 mm.<br />4. Fragments of unidentified burnt cortical and trabecular bone x 7.<br />5. Fragment of slightly burnt long bone measuring 33 mm. The cortex of the<br />bone resembles human but it is quite thick and the trabeculae can not be seen because it requires cleaning. It appears to have been cut at one end.<br />6. Fragments of unburnt unidentified long bone. x 3 The appearance and texture of the cortex of the fragments appears more animal than human but it is advised that further examination should be undertaken in order to confirm this.<br />7. Fragments of unidentified long bone x 7. 5 have been burnt and 2 haven’t. Species<br />uncertain although two of the burnt fragments could possibly be human<br /><br />JAR/90: 183 Cellar 3 Zone 3 East.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />Fragments of unidentified bone of unknown species. One which is calcined is possibly human bone.<br /><br />Cellar 4 Context 169 (redeposited char material from fire elsewhere. Unsealed)<br /><br />JAR/36: 169. Cellar 4 E. Charred material at southern end of Zone 4. Equivalent to 127.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />Fragment of bone ?human.<br /><br />JAR/37: 169. Cellar 4 E. Charred material at southern end of Zone 4. Equivalent to 127.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />Fragment of burnt bone. ?human mastoid process<br /><br />JAR/39: 169. Cellar 4 E. Charred material at southern end of Zone 4. Equivalent to 127.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />Fragment of burnt bone ?human.<br /><br />JAR/40: 169. Cellar 4 E. Charred material at southern end of Zone 4. Equivalent to 127.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />Fragment of bone ?human.<br /><br />GMK/18: 169. Cellar 4 E. Charred material at southern end of Zone 4. Equivalent to 127.<br />4 / 5: 1960s to present date.<br />Human tooth. Anthro exam – deciduous left maxillary lateral incisor. Age range 6 yrs ± 2yrs<br /><br />More <a href="http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2011/02/no-body-remains.html" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-15141434404500448442015-03-01T11:21:20.830+00:002015-03-01T11:21:20.830+00:00So you weren't raped or sodomised as a young c...So you weren't raped or sodomised as a young child be the people who were charged with your care? Perhaps you should talk to those who were and you might not be so quick to attempt to minimise what happened in recent years and the lives shattered because of it.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.com