tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post2110236131251450978..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Suspension Review Meeting of CPO Graham Power (2)voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-22174050050932672432010-03-21T14:21:33.937+00:002010-03-21T14:21:33.937+00:00Re: lime pits
Reports of Warcup/Gradwell's pr...Re: lime pits<br /><br />Reports of Warcup/Gradwell's press release stated that Gradwell claimed:<br /><i>Mr Gradwell said that they had not been full of lime and that nothing suspicious had been found there.</i> <br /><br />Lenny Harper has just stated that:<br /><br /><i>Only one of them still exists because of building work. We find it and our experts excavate it. In the pit is a quantity of lime. Why? We do not know. Gradwell said there was no lime. He was wrong. It is there to see in the Records of the dig.</i><br /><br />The wiggle room here is the phrase "full of lime". It suggests that there may have been some but not a lot but the way Gradwell put it, it looked as if if he was trying to fool the public into believing there was no lime at all.<br /><br />This seem to be a smoking gun proof of who is lying (or misdirected by others having faked or misrepresented the evidence).<br /><br />If significant lime was found and noted in records of the dig then Gradwell's release has a high probability of being a politically motivated whitewash - a damage limitation exercise (to Jersey's reputation) full of PR speak.<br /><br />If significant lime was not found then it's Lenny who is making stuff up and many have hitched their horse to the wrong wagon.<br /><br />So - lime or no lime - it's an objective fact as to what was in the pits or not.<br /><br />Lots of lime - Gradwell/Warcup are liars or dupes<br /><br />No significant lime - Lenny is a liar or dupeDamoclesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-41713082483309161502010-03-19T20:53:34.795+00:002010-03-19T20:53:34.795+00:00VFC,
The above comment by Lenny Harper describing...VFC, <br />The above comment by Lenny Harper describing the lime pits incident is highly significant because it goes right to the heart of his problems with constant political interference. That pattern of interference is the same whether thr police were trying to process arrest warrants and obtain prosecutions, gain access to records, and even requesting more extensive forensic testing when the initial evidence was inconclusive.<br /><br /><br />You would have to be deliberately blind or emotionally and financially entangled with the guilty parties to not see this.<br /><br />Corruption evidence: OVERWHELMING <br />Evidence of good governance in Jersey: NOT A SHRED LEFTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-78954091601778043172010-03-19T10:03:06.392+00:002010-03-19T10:03:06.392+00:00Jill, I am not 100% certain, but I seem to recal w...Jill, I am not 100% certain, but I seem to recal we had either not positively identified them or traced them when I left the island. Lenny HarperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-89476411355801055362010-03-19T08:37:03.933+00:002010-03-19T08:37:03.933+00:00Lenny - were any of the staff that were at HdelaG ...Lenny - were any of the staff that were at HdelaG at the time interviewed as to the possible reason for the lime pits being dug and filled in so quickly?<br /><br />This has always been one aspect of this affair that has always puzzled and concerned me.<br /><br />As for Comical Terry, he is like the computer on Little Britain that always says 'NO'. I do not think the word yes features in his vocabulary at all!!Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-44502102808410957022010-03-18T22:02:11.602+00:002010-03-18T22:02:11.602+00:00The lime pits remain one of the mysterys of this a...The lime pits remain one of the mysterys of this affair. The man who dug them said he was living with his concerns for many years. The story is worth repeating. He gets called by staff, told to dig two holes about six feet deep and three or four feet wide. He asks what for and is told to mind his own business. The next night he is called back to finish filling them in. It stays with him so badly he comes and tells us and shows us the location. Only one of them still exists because of building work. We find it and our experts excavate it. In the pit is a quantity of lime. Why? We do not know. Gradwell said there was no lime. He was wrong. It is there to see in the Records of the dig. I never saw the e mail which Rose said he was sent by Perchard. I don't think Graham saw it after he sent it either. I know one e mail used by Rose was altered but I don't know who altered it, whether it was altered before sending or on receipt. I asked for a copy of it from both the government and the SOJP but was told by the SOJP I could not have it as I was no longer a police officer, and just told no by Le Suer. Lenny HarperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-39402083665049409102010-03-18T11:45:03.339+00:002010-03-18T11:45:03.339+00:00Lenny,
Would you know if the email leaked to Rose...Lenny,<br /><br />Would you know if the email leaked to Rose by Perchard was defaced in anyway?<br /><br />If not do you have any evidence of any forged or defaced emails/documents in relation to the Child Abuse Investigation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-53303589333283481352010-03-18T09:36:11.062+00:002010-03-18T09:36:11.062+00:00Jimmy Perchard, of the extended and famous family ...Jimmy Perchard, of the extended and famous family of Jersey cattle breeders from St. Martin. Why he getting stuck into this mess? What could he possibly have to gain? <br /><br />One theory is that the lime pits at HDLG were created by farmers in the parish to illegally bury cattle that were infected by foot and mouth. Did he think that by helping to rubbish the investigation he could deflect attention from an illegal act by a government minister or his family? All suposition I admit but interesting none the less?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-39174446844390657832010-03-18T07:40:20.538+00:002010-03-18T07:40:20.538+00:00Lenny
"Graham also said that forensic effort ...Lenny<br />"Graham also said that forensic effort was concentrating on the confirmed human bones found at the site, and investigative efforts continued to focus on gathering evidence against known suspects, some of whom have influential local connections and are skilled in the management of media and political opinion"<br />what sort of people have this sort of power to manipulate the media and political opinion, this is very scary.<br />we know the Jersey media manipulates public opinion who is pulling their strings?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-2159171995493605562010-03-17T21:59:12.293+00:002010-03-17T21:59:12.293+00:00Perchard e mailed Graham Power (I believe on the i...Perchard e mailed Graham Power (I believe on the instigation of Rose) and challenged the origins of the original fragment. Mr Power, beieving that the e mail had been sent by Perchard in his capacity as a minister, replied to him giving him a full briefing of the situation to date. This reply was passed to Rose. Following Rose's article Andrew Lewis, then Home Affairs Minister, demanded a report from Graham and myself. This was submitted to Lewis on June 10th. In the report Graham again explained the truth of the matter regarding the first fragment to Lewis, and said we had no further operational need to have the fragment further examined but that he could do so if he wished. Graham also said that forensic effort was concentrating on the confirmed human bones found at the site, and investigative efforts continued to focus on gathering evidence against known suspects, some of whom have influential local connections and are skilled in the management of media and political opinion. Graham repeated that he and I would be happy to have an independent enquiry into the whole issue surrounding this fragment, and would welcome it provided its terms were sufficiently wide to encompass the role of all parties. Graham said he had in mind the e mail he sent to Perchard on 5th May, in response to a request made in his ministerial capacity. Graham had given no consent for that e mail to be shared.On 23rd May Rose, (a journalist with a history of seeking to undermine paedophile investigations) telephoned Graham (the call which was taped on our routine business call system) and during the call said he had been given the e mail by Perchard. Graham said that a simple technical audit would show if this was true. Graham also pointed out to Lewis that an investigation might show if Perchard was acting on his own behalf or for others. Graham also pointed out to Lewis that the latest ACPO report (3 I believe) referred to the morale damage to the enquiry and that they recommended that the issue of the leak be addressed.<br />I do not remember any response to all of this other than Perchard had been asked by Walker if it was true and he denied it. <br />I later asked both the SOJP (in the shape of Warcup) and the Chief Minister e Suer to investigate the Data Protection offences possibly committed. Warcup replied to me that my complaint was "of no substance", and Le Suer point blankly refused to accept any complaint. Lenny HarperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-26028245597518793412010-03-17T21:13:15.540+00:002010-03-17T21:13:15.540+00:00The plot thickens - why on earth was Perchard invo...The plot thickens - why on earth was Perchard involved??<br /><br />VFC - will we be getting sight of ACPO 3 from yourself or Stuart, as it appears BBC Radion Jersey have it.Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-40769799840352700342010-03-17T20:55:03.335+00:002010-03-17T20:55:03.335+00:00Lenny Harper,
Were you not annoyed that the Jerse...Lenny Harper,<br /><br />Were you not annoyed that the Jersey Police refused to investigate your allegations?<br /><br />Did you find out their reasons for not investigating, they must have had reasons surely, and were you satisfied with them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-26949741437674182022010-03-17T20:37:09.525+00:002010-03-17T20:37:09.525+00:00Lenny, why was the e-mail sent to Perchard in the ...Lenny, why was the e-mail sent to Perchard in the first place?voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-16086470406577375402010-03-17T19:55:52.554+00:002010-03-17T19:55:52.554+00:00ACPO 3 does mention the e mail leaked to the journ...ACPO 3 does mention the e mail leaked to the journalist Rose. The e mail was sent to Perchard and Walker by Graham Power. According to Rose, Perchard leaked it to him. Rose told this to Graham Power in a taped conversation. Rose denied the conversation before he knew it had been taped. I do not have a copy of the e mail but it was purely the reply to Perchard's attempt at mischief making over the untrue allegations about the original fragment. These comments from Perchard formed the basis of the load of rubbish written by the journalist which has since been completely discredited. Lenny HarperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-48226978212086818102010-03-17T19:32:41.847+00:002010-03-17T19:32:41.847+00:00E-mails were leaked, says Harper.
Written for the ...E-mails were leaked, says Harper.<br />Written for the JEP By Diane Simon, 19/12/08:<br /><br />Former deputy police chief Lenny Harper has made a complaint to the police against former Chief Minister Frank Walker and Senator Jim Perchard, alleging that they leaked confidencial e-mails about the abuse inquiry to a journalist and newspaper.<br /><br />However Mr Walker has strongly denied that claim, so has David Rose of the Mail on Sunday.<br /><br />The report ends with:<br /><br />Mr Harper told the JEP that he had received a letter from the States police refusing to investigate the allegations.<br />Asked about Mr Harper's allegations, Mr Walker said that they were totaly untrue. <br /><br />Lenny Harper, isn't there proof of this leaked email in ACPO 3?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-20964485437963647222010-03-17T18:08:24.921+00:002010-03-17T18:08:24.921+00:00What a complete and utter disappointment and let-d...What a complete and utter disappointment and let-down Ian Le Marquand is proving to be.<br /><br />At one stage I had a little faith in him. That has been completely and utterly shattered in a very small space of time.<br /><br />Didn't take long to go native did it??<br /><br />Word verification - ingst - more appropriate if it had been angst!Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-66717263066467104342010-03-17T16:45:16.513+00:002010-03-17T16:45:16.513+00:00ILM Acting Outside His Powers
The proposition to ...ILM Acting Outside His Powers<br /><br />The proposition to appoint Warcup says that ILM acted as the Chief of Police in order to conduct a performance review which was a condition of Warcup's promotion, since the real Chief of Police was --unavailable--. Where does the Home Affairs Minister get the power to act as the Chief of Police? Which Law gives him this power? I mean Jersey is supposed to follow the Rule of Law is it not? Ater all last time Jersey had a Home Affairs Minister who could act as the Chief of Police his name was Heinrich Himmler.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-73129430207614631002010-03-17T10:30:48.289+00:002010-03-17T10:30:48.289+00:00Surely now is the time for Lenny Harper to make pu...Surely now is the time for Lenny Harper to make public the original(?) email which was leaked to the press by politicians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-9328301037649957192010-03-17T09:17:05.095+00:002010-03-17T09:17:05.095+00:00Paul: You must have been listening to a different...Paul: You must have been listening to a different radio station from me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-68534180747675418112010-03-16T22:34:04.311+00:002010-03-16T22:34:04.311+00:00Neil,
The next controversial topic of relevance o...Neil,<br /><br />The next controversial topic of relevance on Talkback may be that old subject of "in camera debate." After all, this is normally used only as a national security war time protection in UK.<br /><br />If BBC listeners absolutely demand open process on the appointment of a new police chief, there could be a better chance the ministers will back down. <br /><br />Nothing looks more ominous than their plan for secret back room dealings when there is already evidence of so much corruption. <br /><br />If the police department is to be completely overhauled in favor of shady cops, Jersey will suffer for a long time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-15458883201457690532010-03-16T21:21:47.395+00:002010-03-16T21:21:47.395+00:00"Keep it up Neil.
The Public and even Radio ..."Keep it up Neil.<br /><br />The Public and even Radio Jersey are now taking you seriously."<br /><br />Well until the Home Affairs minister shot a bullet hole through the spin and lashed out at Bob Hill today.<br /><br />Neil channel your energies through something thats a little less controversial mate. There was always a reason for everything being in camera and you ignored people who tried to tell you that there was something more deeper than whats being led to believe here.<br /><br />Whats going to happen now with a new Chief who has been insulted by some very vocal people? Lets hope he is a gentleman eh? I would drop it all now mate and with Power not even in the Island anymore according to reports, do you get any thanks for it anyway?Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-81982568014675528842010-03-16T19:59:01.848+00:002010-03-16T19:59:01.848+00:00Keep it up Neil.
The Public and even Radio Jersey...Keep it up Neil.<br /><br />The Public and even Radio Jersey are now taking you seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-76918504926443084282010-03-16T12:42:16.111+00:002010-03-16T12:42:16.111+00:00Anonymous: No, never any attempt to buy my silenc...Anonymous: No, never any attempt to buy my silence, which may have had something to do with the previous episodes in respect of firearms and the small minority of bad cops and staff. They just stuck to lies and attempted intimidation!! Lenny HarperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-89056703410394088932010-03-16T10:35:45.539+00:002010-03-16T10:35:45.539+00:00Lenny's latest response says an awful lot in v...Lenny's latest response says an awful lot in very few words!!<br /><br />His opinion of our local establishment mirrors exactly what the groundswell of the public in Jersey are now becoming to realise is exactly what they are - corrupt, old boy's network sycophants.<br /><br />It is also very telling that abuse survivors immediately felt a lack of trust and faith in the police when Lenny and Graham were no longer part of the investigation, and we can only hope and pray that when finally (and it WILL) the truth emerges, and however long it takes, all these cases will be re-visited, and that justice will be done and be seen to be done openly.<br /><br />The walls are crumbling, maybe slowly but crumbling they are. Let us hope that when the time comes to rebuild them they will be a lot stronger and solid and able to do the job better than the old ones.Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-59841700783657943932010-03-16T09:03:16.863+00:002010-03-16T09:03:16.863+00:00Lenny, it would be interesting to know 'did th...Lenny, it would be interesting to know 'did they ever try to buy you off' in that did they ever suggest that it would be more advantageous to you if a lid was put on the investigation? Naturally you don't have to answer if it is confidential and may have some significance on a future trial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-29992346725222217652010-03-16T02:05:38.974+00:002010-03-16T02:05:38.974+00:00An extremely simple theory:
Oligarchy had soooo m...An extremely simple theory:<br /><br />Oligarchy had soooo much faith all they had to do was buy off anyone's silence with dirty money. Stuart, Lenny and Graham do not play this game and Jersey power structure does not understand their honest values. Jersey power structure just remains perplexed, wondering what's wrong with these three guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com