tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post2505399672298334830..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: P9 2010 can you afford not to read it?voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-77890859076386594782010-02-05T17:51:29.757+00:002010-02-05T17:51:29.757+00:00Before Deputy Hill puts his proposition for a publ...Before Deputy Hill puts his proposition for a public enquiry forward. He should make sure that all States members with a conflict of interest are taken out of the equation....<br /><br />In fact that could swing the vote?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-79754332430047825472010-02-05T10:17:11.920+00:002010-02-05T10:17:11.920+00:00Rico.
The way I see it is Comical Terry is hopele...Rico.<br /><br />The way I see it is Comical Terry is hopelessly conflicted as is Home Affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand.<br /><br />One can only assume the recent comments made by Senator Le Marquand to the media were very ill-judged. Where he should have been saying "I am unable to comment as I could be the person who will have to rule on the findings of the ongoing investigation(s) concerning Chief Officer Power". Instead he gave a "conflicted" opinion which is not a very good look.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-67606803357738436992010-02-04T21:50:23.414+00:002010-02-04T21:50:23.414+00:00Hi VFC
So according to the JEP the Chief Minister...Hi VFC<br /><br />So according to the JEP the Chief Minister has decided to arrange a review of the suspension of Graham Power and is to appoint an independent external expert to carry it out,why the sudden 'U' turn after telling Deputy Bob Hill he would be doing no such thing.<br /><br />Was he thinking that Bob Hill was calling his bluff when bob told him he was bringing a proposition forward,did panic set in as soon as it was lodged at the Greffe,the last thing this corrupt government want is a public enquiry.<br /><br />Now lets not forget it was Chief Minister le suer who was representing the chief ministers department at Graham Powers complaint board hearing. Graham Power had spent a year trying to get the dates and times of his suspension letters, i sat in with other members of the public ,media and politicians and we were left shocked and stunned and what we witnessed. Advocate Renouf had to stop the meeting on numerous occasions and ask the people present to stop laughing so ridiculous was the chief ministers argument.<br /><br />http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2009/09/graham-power-complaints-board-hearing.html<br /><br />So surly the Chief Minister is hopelessly conflicted here. How can someone who is actively involved in the suspension process be even attempting to bring an independent enquiry.<br /><br />Surely the chief minister should remain neutral <br /><br />I believe the Chief ministers department are using an old trick and one that has been used many times in the house. They will tell the politicians and constables that there is no need to vote for bob hills proposition because we will be bringing one they will say 'TRUST US IT WILL BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT' but not PUBLIC. <br /><br />Now remember how the enquiry into the non hedged euro ended up, a total joke comes to mind,it has been dealt with behind closed doors 'the jersey way' oh yes just what they want with this one.<br /><br />The reason our Chief Minister and our elite government are now looking like Monty Python is because there are too many lies to cover up, they are tying themselves in knots IT MUST STOP.<br /><br />I fully expect Deputy Anne Pryke to support bobs proposition, after what she has just learnt from Verita she cant vote any other way. This is also about an open and transparent government if any members vote against this proposition i believe they are voting for concealment,corruption and much much more of the same.<br /><br />Please let Verita be a pivotal moment in Jerseys future it affects us all. Graham Power just like Jon Day has had his reputation trashed just like Jon Day he was made a scapegoat. THIS HAS GOT TOO STOP NOW<br /><br />rsrico sordahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09370637157786202673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-48513930916199742632010-02-04T20:32:13.734+00:002010-02-04T20:32:13.734+00:00VFC
It stands to reason that Deputy Bob Hill'...VFC<br /><br />It stands to reason that Deputy Bob Hill's proposition for a committee of inquiry into Graham Power's suspension, when it comes to the vote will have the ten council of ministers and eight to ten constables against it. Thats a definate 18 to 20.<br /><br />The members for it will be at the most 15.<br /><br />That leaves 18 to 20 to be convinced....<br /><br />Thats if they havnt already been told what to do?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-13641762352193041392010-02-04T17:05:50.180+00:002010-02-04T17:05:50.180+00:00Phil.
On the left hand side of the page you will ...Phil.<br /><br />On the left hand side of the page you will see "followers" where you have the option to follow.<br /><br />Jill Terry is getting exposed more and more on a daily basis.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-587566875337112772010-02-04T17:02:17.684+00:002010-02-04T17:02:17.684+00:00Off topic, sorry...but how do you become a 'fo...Off topic, sorry...but how do you become a 'follower' to this site?philnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-81721816358417283022010-02-04T17:00:21.224+00:002010-02-04T17:00:21.224+00:00Quite right VFC - this MUST be a public enquiry, a...Quite right VFC - this MUST be a public enquiry, absolutely no question about that.<br /><br />We should all now be contacting our politicians and asking them to vote for this proposition. No more secrecy, no more lies, no more cover-ups please, only justice for Mr Power.<br /><br />Why oh why did it have to go this far before Terry pulled his finger out?? To little, to late methinks.Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-70362230283644931832010-02-04T16:40:26.470+00:002010-02-04T16:40:26.470+00:00Tony.
Terry Le Sueur should have ordered a public...Tony.<br /><br />Terry Le Sueur should have ordered a public inquiry into this disgraceful state of affairs, if not before, as soon as the Royal Court felt compelled to express their concerns over the original suspension.<br /><br />Instead he has hindered Chief Officer Power's attempts to gain access to information and has reisted all attempts made by Deputy Hill and Constable Crowcroft to get to the bottom of this.<br /><br />Surely there is no way, due to the comments above, that Comical Terry can appoint anybody to any review as he is hopelessly conflicted.<br /><br />This needs to be an open and transparent "public" inquiry as Deputy Hill's proposition suggests.<br /><br />Furthermore there are a number of States members, in particular ministers who will have to declare an interest in this proposition and refrain from voting.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-2379500651999721732010-02-04T16:26:00.647+00:002010-02-04T16:26:00.647+00:00I see that Terry Le Sueur has taken the Sir Humphr...I see that Terry Le Sueur has taken the Sir Humphrey Appleby option, and offered an internal inquiry instead.TonyTheProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10486414706261508994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-58017376707792041212010-02-04T14:41:56.218+00:002010-02-04T14:41:56.218+00:00> I don't feel comfortable with a States we...> I don't feel comfortable with a States website having access to my IP details.<br /><br />True. You could use a proxy server and other tricks but the final results are always coming down the line to your home and JT know. It wouldn't surprise me if they had a mole in there.<br /><br />You have to reach quite a high level of nerdy know-how before it gets really difficult to trace you - even with free wifi hotspots in cafes.<br /><br />Great how paranoid they make us, isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-7226921248336114992010-02-04T12:12:37.696+00:002010-02-04T12:12:37.696+00:00Well - all of a sudden it would appear he (Comical...Well - all of a sudden it would appear he (Comical Terry) has decided to do just this!!<br /><br />Quelle surprise!Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-50646500163901185922010-02-04T10:13:38.468+00:002010-02-04T10:13:38.468+00:00The question that also needs to be asked is "...The question that also needs to be asked is "why hasn't Comical Terry INSISTED on an inquiry from the very outset"? Why has it been left to Deputy Hill?<br /><br />Surley if the Chief of Police, and others in the force are alleging possible criminal activity cocerning , among others, senior Civil Servants, then Comical Terry as our leader should have been straight on it and demanded an investigation?<br /><br />Wonder why he didn't?????????????voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-87359114173327947942010-02-04T09:27:09.822+00:002010-02-04T09:27:09.822+00:00Three almighty cheers to Deputy Hill for the tenac...Three almighty cheers to Deputy Hill for the tenacity and determination to bring this proposition in the hope of long overdue closure for an honourable and decent police officer and his family. <br /><br />It is always a source of amusement and concern that whenever comical Terry is asked a question either written or oral the following words always seem to form part of his reply - can't, won't, unable, no, not - indeed all negative unhelpful responses. The man, frankly is a joke.<br /><br />I too agree with the sentiments expressed about Trevor Pitman. i always felt he would be a good politician and he has not failed to deliver.<br /><br />Finally Rob, you have done a superb job furnishing the TROLL with answers in your usual well thought out manner. It can be rather tedious having to keep re-stating the obvious!!Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-31435325892781376442010-02-03T23:20:53.890+00:002010-02-03T23:20:53.890+00:00I believe Lenny Harper has stated that the police ...I believe Lenny Harper has stated that the police cost of the excavation of HdlG was one and a half million pounds, the rest went on legal expenses,correct me if I have it wrong.So many amounts have been bandied about in the media, it would be great if we could have the factsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-21030790646801472832010-02-03T22:39:01.511+00:002010-02-03T22:39:01.511+00:00VFC
Posted on the channelonline comment section a...VFC<br /><br />Posted on the channelonline comment section about this that is being swamped by trolls as always.<br /><br />"Well just look at what the Verita report uncovered about the health service failures. A committee of enquiry would soon put paid to all those arm chair critics. Let the truth be told under oath and in public and then we might be able to make more wise comment."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-71275844997298911462010-02-03T22:12:54.657+00:002010-02-03T22:12:54.657+00:00Hi VFC
Anonymous said im popping up all over the ...Hi VFC<br /><br />Anonymous said im popping up all over the web at the moment, well if im on thisisjon then it's not me.<br /><br />Rob thanks for your comments always a good read <br /><br />rsrico sordahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09370637157786202673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-48822421929451147302010-02-03T21:38:09.786+00:002010-02-03T21:38:09.786+00:00Great post, VFC. This is a classic example of impo...Great post, VFC. This is a classic example of important Jersey journalism at work.<br /><br />BooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-48273069545700645392010-02-03T21:36:37.498+00:002010-02-03T21:36:37.498+00:00Rob, your postings are entertaining but also good ...Rob, your postings are entertaining but also good at making the main points well understood. Some don't like to see that trolling because it gets everybody off topic and maybe that is intentional. But you show the troll for what he is. He is contradicting himself at every turn, whilst he obsesses over how unimportant and uninteresting every single part of this blog is, so why is he so driven to be the biggest commenter? How many blogs are there out in the sphere for him to obsess over instead of one he attacts and says he is tired of? Where is the sense of that?<br /><br />Another anon "Notwaiting4Godot"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-79865567026748655222010-02-03T21:25:03.063+00:002010-02-03T21:25:03.063+00:00Who will it take to create a Jersey government wit...Who will it take to create a Jersey government with real integrity? <br /><br />(1) Stuart Syvret.<br />(2) Lenny Harper, Graham Power.<br />(3) Bob Hill, Trevor Pitman.<br />(4) COURAGEOUS ABUSE SURVIVORS!<br />(5) TEAM VOICE!<br />(6) Great Commenters like Rob Kent.<br />(7) Smart investigative reporters, accredited or not, local or not.<br />(8) Many more Jersey citizens and voters like Jill Gracia and those who have continued to support the struggle for transparent justice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-10132100011195477442010-02-03T21:01:30.853+00:002010-02-03T21:01:30.853+00:00Re "I have to go for now guys as I need to ge...Re "I have to go for now guys as I need to get my daughter to sleep but I just want you to be a bit more open minded on this subject because its not all as clear cut as you appear to be trying to suggest."<br /><br />Hang on a minute, are you the same Anonymous who had to go away for a month? I think we should be told.<br /><br />In fact, I think all anonymous contributors should include their expiry time next to their names, such as:<br /><br />Anonymous (0 minutes)<br /><br />Anonymous (bed-time story)<br /><br />Anonymous (here until I have convinced everyone else they are wrong)<br /><br />Anonymous (waiting for Stuart Syvret to return)<br /><br />Anonymous (waiting for Godot)<br /><br />...<br /><br />etc.Rob Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019654918054950571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-10644155017812018482010-02-03T20:51:23.592+00:002010-02-03T20:51:23.592+00:00Rico.
I share your appreciation for Deputy Bob Hi...Rico.<br /><br />I share your appreciation for Deputy Bob Hill and Deputy Trevor Pitman (Big Trev)<br /><br />Firstly Deputy Hill being a Human Rights Campaigner, a cop for 30 years and a politician!! How could I ever have time for a man like this?<br /><br />It has been a massive, pleasant suprise for me and he has given me hope and restored my confidence in humanity.<br /><br />Big Trev is a very welcome addition to the States. He has, to use his words, "Testicular Fortitude", he says it how it is and his lived up to his campaign promises.<br /><br />Out of all the new incumbents he is the star. He has delivered time and time again, which is a little more than I can say for all of them.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-73615434249987823152010-02-03T20:44:35.237+00:002010-02-03T20:44:35.237+00:00I have to go for now guys as I need to get my daug...I have to go for now guys as I need to get my daughter to sleep but I just want you to be a bit more open minded on this subject because its not all as clear cut as you appear to be trying to suggest.<br /><br />There is nothing wrong with what you are doing but I just think there is a slight manipulation of all truths here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-78233534071429192532010-02-03T20:38:06.522+00:002010-02-03T20:38:06.522+00:00Re "Okay how do you think people view the £4....Re "Okay how do you think people view the £4.5M digging of Haut de la Garenne and be honest here?"<br /><br />Andrew Lewis (the then Home Affairs Minister) and Frank Walker said that money should not be a consideration; they told the investigation team to do whatever they had to and to not consider the cost.<br /><br />Secondly, where did that 4.5M figure come from? Is it accurate? We have never seen an audit of it. If it is accurate, where did it go? <br /><br />How much of it was spent on the solicitors at the '7 Bedford Row' chambers, one of whom was permanently assigned to the case?<br /><br />Until the breakdown of figures is given, I would be very suspicious about ascribing all of that to the actual police work.<br /><br />Besides that, your argument is fallacious. Are you really suggesting that because the HdlG investigation cost a lot of money, the States of Jersey should break the law?Rob Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019654918054950571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-3995978139619593252010-02-03T20:33:21.948+00:002010-02-03T20:33:21.948+00:00So it's the £4.5m HDLG dig now?
That has been...So it's the £4.5m HDLG dig now?<br /><br />That has been covered in great detail where Lenny Harper produced his 16,500 words of evidence and facts and I have no desire to revisit it on this thread.<br /><br />I have given you the details of Wiltshire so hope you are now a little more informed as to what is going on.....or not going on.<br /><br />Deputy Bob Hill's proposition sets out to put the record straight. Without relevant answers it could appear that the former Home Affairs Minister and senior Civil Servants colluded to illegally remove the Chief of Police from his post.<br /><br />If nothing else these people deserve to have their names cleared and without any notes being destroyed!voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-87119214445437892382010-02-03T20:26:55.284+00:002010-02-03T20:26:55.284+00:00Re "Why isn't Graham Power asking them hi...Re "Why isn't Graham Power asking them himself? Is it not a police matter in its entirity and he is a Chief?"<br /><br />You need to go away and read the facts. It is a waste of all our time if you post comments that reveal your ignorance of the history and public information on this subject.<br /><br />Some of these things are not just a matter of opinion and if you cannot avail yourself of the facts, you really shouldn't comment.<br /><br />Or if you just want to troll, choose another site.Rob Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019654918054950571noreply@blogger.com