tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post2964974341324302053..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Napier Report Imminent (3)“PUT UP…….OR I WILL!!”voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-81092905779202976662010-10-07T19:05:29.039+01:002010-10-07T19:05:29.039+01:00I have tried several times to publish pro Napier c...I have tried several times to publish pro Napier comments on Channel TV my comments are refused and please note ALL COMMENTS SHOWN on there are anti Bob Hill what a joke for a TV channe. waste of time no wonder they have to fill avacant advert spaces with such utter rubbish as weather report from Timbuktu they are a just a waste of time I hope there sadvertizers realise no one takes notice of themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-22708071485644136942010-10-07T11:37:04.472+01:002010-10-07T11:37:04.472+01:00Queens Medal? You mean the same thing they gave M...Queens Medal? You mean the same thing they gave Mick Gradwell?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-44180419698525997302010-10-07T11:37:01.628+01:002010-10-07T11:37:01.628+01:00It's got to be Ogley. He will be the sacrifici...It's got to be Ogley. He will be the sacrificial lamb. The guy that said 'if you want to get to him you will have to come through me first'. Warcup has only a few weeks left. And I wouldnt mind betting that when the shit hits the fan old Warcup switches sides in order to try and clear his name. I don't feel sorry for Warcup, he went along with the deception, but I bet he sure as hell wished he didnt try and shaft his boss behind his back. <br /><br />So what state will Ogley be in this morning after a night of little sleep? I would bet my house he's asked for a six figure sum to walk away quietly. This morning I can imagine the chaotic scenes in Cyril Le Marquand House as deals are thrashed out behind closed doors. The HR department, Treasury, Comms Unit and CM's office all desperately looking for the right solution. One that creates the appearance of a government still in control. It reminds me of those last few days in October 1944 when the Germans were desperately fighting for their lives in Normandy whilst knowing that in reality the war was lost. The Falaise pocket was eventually closed but even then some escaped - but many were lost never to return again. <br /><br />And so it will be this time. There has been much written in the last few years, too much as far as our government is concerned, about the way certain people tried to protect Jersey's 'image'. History will show that they were very wrong and that the rights of the individual must always be placed ahead the image of the country. Lets us hope that lessons have been learned, that humility and common sense will prevail and that those that have been wronged will be proven right and given the spoils of war. <br /><br />I only wish it was not too late for Stuart Syvret. But I think it is. They will want to take somebody down with them and as I write this I am reminded of the words of Rob Kent "Its a cess pit - and one from which no man came out sane".Your in my Falaise pocketnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-50014981017583454912010-10-07T08:40:55.928+01:002010-10-07T08:40:55.928+01:00One must remember Graham Power QPM was suspended o...One must remember Graham Power QPM was suspended on a “disputed” letter from his immediate subordinate David Warcup. It could be argued that David Warcup was conflicted in this position. Nevertheless Graham Power QPM was suspended, with little respect for correct process, on what amounted to little more than managerial issues.<br /><br />This being the case, whoever it is, that has been criticized in the Napier Report and “might” face disciplinary action should be suspended (as a neutral act) immediately. The Napier Report is not a letter from a subordinate, it is a report where witnesses have been interviewed, an investigation has been conducted and a QC has weighed up all the evidence and reached a conclusion. Has this person been suspended? If not why not?voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-90882430338010856392010-10-07T08:19:51.733+01:002010-10-07T08:19:51.733+01:00The Jersey Law Update, which I get by email, gives...The Jersey Law Update, which I get by email, gives an update on any new legislation, or judgments in the courts.<br /><br />Today had:<br /> <br />Daily Update for 06/10/2010 <br />Legislation<br /><br />Drug Trafficking Offences (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 201-<br /><br />SEA FISHERIES (TRAWLING, NETTING AND DREDGING) (AMENDMENT NO. 3) (JERSEY) REGULATIONS 2010<br /><br />Judgments<br /><br />[b]Syvret v AG and Connetable of Grouville 6-Oct-2010[/b] <br /><br />Unfortunately the content of the judgments is "unreported", and only the title is given. Has anyone any knowledge of what happened here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-15407430353996584562010-10-06T23:37:43.012+01:002010-10-06T23:37:43.012+01:00Well, the ideal outcome for the oligarchy is to sa...Well, the ideal outcome for the oligarchy is to say that the Napier report cannot be released because it might be prejudicial to a fair hearing in any disciplinary action taken against one or more unnamed individuals.<br /><br />That would leave the road free to finishing shafting Stuart inter-parochially. <br /><br />Then three months down the line they decide there are no grounds for disciplinary actions against anyone named by Napier because of 'insufficient evidence'. <br /><br />But the Napier report is too sensitive to release to the public, who have now paid several million pounds for several reports they've never seen the insides of. Although, all those reports apparently support the government's case that everyone is guilty except them.<br /><br />It's the Jersey Way all over again.<br /><br />Someone get it up on Wikileaks before it is too late.Rob Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019654918054950571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-87087021488634111522010-10-06T23:30:47.898+01:002010-10-06T23:30:47.898+01:00http://www.channelonline.tv/channelonline_jerseyne...http://www.channelonline.tv/channelonline_jerseynews/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=491176Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-41821219186640947852010-10-06T23:11:27.067+01:002010-10-06T23:11:27.067+01:00well done - Wiltshire less redacted is also late, ...well done - Wiltshire less redacted is also late, promised September.<br /><br />http://tonymusings.blogspot.com/2010/10/climbing-mount-improbable.htmlTonyTheProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10486414706261508994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-57703757729830954012010-10-06T22:58:50.952+01:002010-10-06T22:58:50.952+01:00There either is or isn't grounds for disciplin...There either is or isn't grounds for disciplinary action. <br />My guess is there's more than one person criticised in the report but for whatever reason ie no longer a States Members, no action can be taken against them.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17696365384453325709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-74643021390999769242010-10-06T22:31:22.523+01:002010-10-06T22:31:22.523+01:00Mandingo said
If there are to be disciplinaries a...Mandingo said<br /><br />If there are to be disciplinaries against individuals in a fair and impartial manner regardless of whether the napier report is in the public domain.<br /><br />Exactly the way I was thinking Mandingo and well done VFC team a great and important article. CTV actually mentioned it as a secret report. BBC Jersey nothing. <br /><br />On the subject of disciplinary action the only time that the name is not published is when a minor is involved under a certain age, and some of the reporting is not in full context so as not to lead a trail to the minor identity.<br /><br />In this report the adult person or people who " may " suffer disciplinary proceedings, will have plenty of tools in the box to defend themselves.<br /><br />I see no minors here, Just a one sided court case, a troubled despot chief minister who tries to make up the rules up as he goes along, to save his friends from being embarrassed or possibly worse.<br /><br />Deputy Bob Hill is correct in his actions because the taxpayers and people of Jersey have a right to read what they have paid for and what Napier wants to report. Deputy Hill is also correct in stating the CM Le Suer has had plenty of time to carry out disciplinary action. <br /><br />If Justice is to be done and seen to be done, and if the Napier report holds important information as the Chief Minister says it does (admits wrong doing possible with disciplinary consequences ) then anything less than publishing the hidden report, and the information contained within, comes under mis use of influence by the chief minister Le Suer. <br /><br />Magistrate Bridget Shaw can not hold a fair trial when a document of this weight, penned by Napier may have bearing on the case, and has been withheld ( which it clearly has ). Justice must not be denied or must it Magistrate Shaw ? <br /><br />Anonymous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-26583350814909006362010-10-06T22:21:53.737+01:002010-10-06T22:21:53.737+01:00TLS says:
The Deputy of St. Martin has therefore ...TLS says:<br /><br />The Deputy of St. Martin has therefore agreed to continue to hold the Report in confidence.<br /><br />Deputy Bob Hill says:<br /><br />Your email below was sent without any discussion with me therefore I have not agreed to hold the Report in confidence for what seems to be an indefinite period.<br /><br />-------------------------<br />So it looks like TLS just makes things up as he goes along, I wonder who he learnt that from!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-87560371776531739292010-10-06T22:16:13.000+01:002010-10-06T22:16:13.000+01:00If I recall correctly, there have been reports pro...If I recall correctly, there have been reports produced, and released, over "incidents" in the UK and then further investigations have been undertaken to process individuals concerned where appropriately<br /><br />So why does the report have to be kept away from the public here?<br /><br /><br />The Beano is not the RagAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-416641315142713482010-10-06T22:14:02.947+01:002010-10-06T22:14:02.947+01:00It took the previous Home Affairs Minister only a ...It took the previous Home Affairs Minister only a few hours (if that) to actually proceed with a suspension and disciplinary investigation against a highly regarded Chief of Police, after a so called interim report that wasn't.<br /><br />In contrast, the Chief Minister has so far taken three weeks after receiving what must be a conclusive investigation, to consider actually taking disciplinary action on someone, which is strange, as only last week he was due to release the report.<br /><br />Coincidentaly, there may have been some people who thought Stuart Syvrets case would have been concluded before the end of last week, but with a further day scheduled for this Friday, it is not over yet.<br /><br />Has this report been delayed to avoid giving Stuart Syvret powerful evidence to help him to prove his case?<br /><br />I can see why Deputy Bob Hill, has asked that he is told who is being considered for disciplinary action, because it could just a ruse (made up) to delay the release, only to eventually be told no action will be taken.<br /><br />I wonder who the best chess player is!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-76731905800710623242010-10-06T22:06:06.722+01:002010-10-06T22:06:06.722+01:00HMMM?<a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aDvrmRF9kbM/TKzf0lK0QII/AAAAAAAAAhU/IT9EXlV0GP4/s1600/Le+Sewer.jpg" rel="nofollow">HMMM?</a>Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-30530830127372238882010-10-06T21:48:00.757+01:002010-10-06T21:48:00.757+01:00OK so TLS says that there may be grounds for disci...OK so TLS says that there may be grounds for disciplinary action. Realistically you can't take disciplinary action against a retired politician (what you going do do? Tell Frank he can't hose down the deck of his gin palace for one whole week?)so it's got to be either Ogley, Warcup, or both. Place your bets.Fidel's with me nownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-26220816746614948562010-10-06T21:46:44.052+01:002010-10-06T21:46:44.052+01:00Over three weeks to consider taking disciplinary a...Over three weeks to consider taking disciplinary action on a proper report, yet it took hours for the previous Home Affairs Minister to take such action upon the Chief of Police on a so called interim report.<br /><br />What a joke!! if only it wasn't so serious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-84741901028762781582010-10-06T21:30:44.864+01:002010-10-06T21:30:44.864+01:00Bob Hill's ultimatum should make headline/fron...Bob Hill's ultimatum should make headline/front page news let alone the disciplinary stuff.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-20040121633548007472010-10-06T21:28:18.502+01:002010-10-06T21:28:18.502+01:00The disciplinary action should make front page new...The disciplinary action should make front page news anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-11606683653939148912010-10-06T21:17:48.548+01:002010-10-06T21:17:48.548+01:00I don't think they hae Bob over a barrel. It&#...I don't think they hae Bob over a barrel. It's just weasel words from a worried man. That much is plain. If there are to be disciplinaries against individuals in a fair and impartial manner regardless of whether the napier report is in the public domain. We the public paid for it ffs! Brian Napier has written it. Jesus, Jersey politics is still way too polite. Bob - do the right thing and dont let him play you.Mandingonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-15327277638914521272010-10-06T21:07:41.365+01:002010-10-06T21:07:41.365+01:00I agree Lenny........ I am not too sure of the in&...I agree Lenny........ I am not too sure of the in's and out's but is there just a possibility that the Wiltshire report may be dished - not too sure if that was part of the investigation by Napier........ perhaps someone could clarify...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-83262545842058140592010-10-06T21:05:15.508+01:002010-10-06T21:05:15.508+01:00Martin.
In fairness I believe they have Deputy Hi...Martin.<br /><br />In fairness I believe they have Deputy Hill over a barrel, and at least he is actually doing something in order to bring some justice to those who deserve it.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-76292152116756180002010-10-06T20:54:57.603+01:002010-10-06T20:54:57.603+01:00The same old chestnut of not wanting to damage dis...The same old chestnut of not wanting to damage discipline proceedings. Who is the sacrificial pawn then? Mustn't be cynical!! You can bet though that it wasn't Tel Boy who came up with that delaying tactic. There is more than a hint of a former AG there. Lenny HarperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-33199342529434448632010-10-06T20:54:41.085+01:002010-10-06T20:54:41.085+01:00so d,hill has been told to do as he is told not w...so d,hill has been told to do as he is told not what he said he was going to do that gives more time to them? what a shame 4.30 is 4.30 ? not 20.02martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-78713757931144440022010-10-06T20:53:13.501+01:002010-10-06T20:53:13.501+01:00wow, at least he has agreed to publish it un-redac...wow, at least he has agreed to publish it un-redacted surely that is a minor win.<br /><br />Regarding this bit "Having read this Report carefully, I am of the view that there could possibly be grounds for disciplinary action arising out of the report"<br /><br />Is it possible that the disciplinary actions are the same ones against power and harper though. It doesnt explain that, maybe I have missed something. Is he saying the disciplinary actions against them were wrong. Flipping hard to understand what is going on these days!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-78574656705942343652010-10-06T20:43:30.685+01:002010-10-06T20:43:30.685+01:00Is there a forgotten verse in the nursery rhyme th...Is there a forgotten verse in the nursery rhyme that goes 'the wheels on the bus have fallen off, fallen off, fallen off. Ah, shit eh...'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com