tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post3306048697772608311..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Kangaroo Court.voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-58701047003464302862010-07-16T06:00:16.088+01:002010-07-16T06:00:16.088+01:00That was excellent - it gave me a good laugh first...That was excellent - it gave me a good laugh first thing in the morning - I think it should be sent to all national news stations lol. rofl......... oh dearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-44806889772009273092010-07-15T16:35:32.432+01:002010-07-15T16:35:32.432+01:00Re "Context is important"
You are right...Re "Context is important"<br /><br />You are right. All we have had from the Jersey government's spin on the Wiltshire report is a highly tendentious interpretation of half the facts.<br /><br />None of them have been tested nor the interpretation challenged. For example - nobody has asked the question: when a States member or member of the Jersey police travels, who is responsible for booking their flights and hotels?<br /><br />Similarly, when other consultants visit the States to do ad-hoc work, who books their flights and accommodation and signs off their expenses?<br /><br />For all we know, this level of expenditure is typical of all States departments, which is probably why it was never questioned and was signed-off at the time.<br /><br />Only later, when they were looking for an excuse to denigrate and bury the inquiry, did they pounce on it as an example.<br /><br />It might also be the case that there is/was a culture of creaming off expenses and overtime within the police force. This was <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8192964.stm" rel="nofollow">true of the Met</a>. If there was such a systemic problem in the Jersey police, it would pre-date the HdlG inquiry and may even exist now. Has anyone checked?Rob Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019654918054950571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-8973750937660513172010-07-15T16:09:17.415+01:002010-07-15T16:09:17.415+01:00GP's email to a friend was simply commenting o...GP's email to a friend was simply commenting on how bad things were, that sick jokes were already circulating. This is just commenting upon fact, not passing it on as a jolly good laugh -<br /><br />(2.45) "according to stories doing the rounds in pubs, the abuse enquiry is a cover story; we are really selecting the winner of the world hide and seek championships. Or if you prefer what is the difference between a Jersey Royal and a Jersey orphan?? Answer a Jersey Royal gets dug up after three months"<br /><br />Context is everything.<br /><br />You can include a "joke" as part of commenting upon the situation without necessarily thinking it funny. And in anycase, the point of the joke is how victims were abused and the whole thing covered up. It seeks to highlight the failings over here.<br /><br />Nowhere near the big deal the spin doctors and the gullible would have you believe.Context is importantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-43820115779292891122010-07-15T14:20:27.923+01:002010-07-15T14:20:27.923+01:00Graham Power was interviewed yesterday. For me thi...Graham Power was interviewed yesterday. For me this will be the definitive statement on everything that has happened in the last two, three, and thirty years in Jersey, never mind all the lies and cover-ups aided and abetted by the Jersey Evening Post:<br /><br />"Let's remember what happened here. People were abused in establishments run by the Jersey government. They either did not complain about it or if they did complain about it, their complaints were simply swept under the carpet. We changed that. Lenny Harper launched an inquiry, he built confidence in these people and brought these allegations out into the open and literally hundreds of allegations that had been festering for decades were brought out into the open. We deserve support in doing that and we deserve thanks and praise for the way we did that. What instead we've got is money siphoned off to try and persecute the detectives who brought that abuse out into the open. And the same Jersey government that ran the institutions where the abuse took place is now the same Jersey government that is persecuting the senior officers who tried to do something about it. It stinks. It undermines confidence in victims and I know that the day that I was suspended victims and witnesses were ringing the police saying, 'They're at it again. It's going to be another cover-up. They've suspended Graham Power, now Lenny Harper's gone - it's all going to be covered up."<br /><br />(<a href="http://www.channelonline.tv/channelonline_jerseynews/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=489876" rel="nofollow">Channel TV Interview</a>)Rob Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019654918054950571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-29205420116206374102010-07-14T22:05:03.637+01:002010-07-14T22:05:03.637+01:00I used to read what you had to say but now I don&#...I used to read what you had to say but now I don't think you know enough about Lenny Harper and Graham Power to give any credible arguments in their favour. Today they have been finshed and these recorded interviews are weak and mean nothing now.<br /><br />Maybe tomorrow you will accept it...or Friday....But sooner or later the peny must drop the the era of them is over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-55092140580842199822010-07-14T21:57:11.397+01:002010-07-14T21:57:11.397+01:00Thanks,Voice for the link to GP interview on BBC. ...Thanks,Voice for the link to GP interview on BBC. For some reason I couldn't get this link when i went on there listen again website<br />Did listen to phone in though<br />you certainly got your point over<br />Keep goingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-1563199697028051952010-07-14T21:35:30.209+01:002010-07-14T21:35:30.209+01:00Hi VFC.
Just put up the recording of the intervie...Hi VFC.<br /><br />Just put up the recording of the interview with Chief of Police Mr Graham Power QPM. If you or your reader's would like a Listen go to the site below.<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />http://thejerseyway.blogspot.com/2010/07/chief-of-police-mr-graham-power-qpm.htmlthejerseywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02401815536804277436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-68586190780226179192010-07-14T21:29:44.137+01:002010-07-14T21:29:44.137+01:00Just so as I have an idea of what sort of person I...Just so as I have an idea of what sort of person I am dealing with here, could the anonymous poster who left this comment "And you wonder why they don't take you seriously! LOL"<br /><br />Could you let us know if you take the JEP seriously?voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-3509979342322173852010-07-14T21:26:28.017+01:002010-07-14T21:26:28.017+01:00For those who were unable to listen to Chief Offic...For those who were unable to listen to Chief Officer Graham Power on BBC Radio Jersey,this morning, it is a must listen.<br /><br />Thejerseyway has published it <a href="http://thejerseyway.blogspot.com/2010/07/chief-of-police-mr-graham-power-qpm.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-83143284755227620002010-07-14T20:53:56.605+01:002010-07-14T20:53:56.605+01:00Sorry, spelling mistake.
Jill, never allow yourse...Sorry, spelling mistake.<br /><br />Jill, never allow yourself to be made to feel like that about your home. Or anyone else reading, for that matter.<br /><br />we are not the one's who are the lying, cheating, corrupt and thoroughly evil pigs.<br /><br />Take pride and satisfaction from this beautiful island we live in, and the vast majority of decent people on it.<br /><br />It is only the rancide festering Government of Jersey, that denigrates the good name of Jersey....<br /><br />NOT THE PEOPLE OF JERSEYBig Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-41117001619236794222010-07-14T20:50:49.900+01:002010-07-14T20:50:49.900+01:00Sorry, spelling mistake on last post....
Jill, ne...Sorry, spelling mistake on last post....<br /><br />Jill, never allow yourself to be made to feel like that about your home. Or anyone else reading, for that matter.<br /><br />We are not the one's who are the lying, cheating, corrupt and thoroughly evil pigs.<br /><br />Take pride and satisfaction from this beautiful island we live in, and the vast majority of decent people on it.<br /><br />It is only the rancide festering Government of Jersey, that denigrates the good name of Jersey....<br /><br />NOT THE PEOPLE OF JERSEYBig Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-4856499372848612942010-07-14T20:37:38.511+01:002010-07-14T20:37:38.511+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-45850949482796233242010-07-14T20:11:27.573+01:002010-07-14T20:11:27.573+01:00Hi VFC - I know you absolutely refuse to purchase ...Hi VFC - I know you absolutely refuse to purchase the FFR, but on seeing the headline and front page staring at me today, I did just that.<br /><br />Unbelievable!<br /> <br />I will drop it through your letter box tomorrow. A hatchet job of the greatest proportions (no less than was to be expected I guess), but you could almost get a taste for the delight it gave them to put all this in print with Mr Power given about one quarter of a page for his reaction to a redacted report.<br /><br />I am truly ashamed of what has happened in this Island, ashamed to say I live here, and if in any way it were possible I would be on that boat in the morning believe you me.Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-59146347978570120542010-07-14T19:15:46.823+01:002010-07-14T19:15:46.823+01:00Channel report murdered Lenny and Graham, and by s...Channel report murdered Lenny and Graham, and by so doing, also murdered the survivors, AGAIN. The pathetic sinister music they played when showing Graham's picture wouldn't have scared a five year old.<br /><br />Just mindless clowns, playing mindless games, and reaching for an even bigger shovel.<br /><br />The really interesting part of the news tonight was the "TRUTH" coming out about the Raoul Moat story. It is a must watch (this evening) for anyone who needs to learn how to report properley!!! <br /><br />YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE xxxBig Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-20945595400216957662010-07-14T18:40:38.506+01:002010-07-14T18:40:38.506+01:00Well no suprises with the FILTHY RAG living up to ...Well no suprises with the FILTHY RAG living up to its name.<br /><br />I read its editorial online and what stuck in my mind is this. The FILTHY RAG is what is known over here as "accredited" media. People slag off Bloggers for being biased, not giving both sides of a story, being judge Jury and executioners and all the rest of it.<br /><br />Today the FILTHY RAG have done (yet again) all those things Bloggers are accused of. They appear to have found Graham Power and Lenny Harper guilty of all charges without any trial/tribunal or disciplinary hearings.<br /><br />They have published the "seriously flawed" "cherry picked" findings of the "prosecution" side and found Lenny Harper and Graham Power guilty of all charges.<br /><br />The've played judge jury and executioner purely on one side of the story.<br /><br />BBC Radio Jersey on the other hand have done, in my opinion, a pretty good and even handed job of reporting this (by their standards) as too have Channelonline by putting up the 14 minute telephone call from Adam Fowler to Graham Power. Although I've not seen Channel Report yet, but it is a start.<br /><br />If the FILTHY RAG supporters want to go about slagging off Bloggers because of bias reporting, well go and wipe you arse.......and you know what with!<br /><br />Team Voice in the coming weeks will be putting more "facts" and "evidence" into the public domain concerning this travesty of justice, readers will be able to make their minds up on "both" sides of the story.<br /><br />The FILTHY, FILTH RAG!voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-59374390483414955412010-07-14T09:51:35.392+01:002010-07-14T09:51:35.392+01:00Oh god, that super imposed picture of the Senator&...Oh god, that super imposed picture of the Senator's Le Marquand's face on a kangaroo and his reaction to it has just had me in stitches all morning! It was just as funny as that filming you did of the Education Minister and the keyboard playing cat!Jon H (the real one)https://www.blogger.com/profile/09459013742469540020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-27044499002770088602010-07-13T23:56:13.695+01:002010-07-13T23:56:13.695+01:00Well well. Looks like some olitrollies are opposed...Well well. Looks like some olitrollies are opposed to your right to report news truthfully. You don't have their pre-approved Jersey Way olicredentials, do you. Remember, they want a smaller but richer North Korea style Statesspeak, not free speech on the internet for God's sake!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-88792181493532379522010-07-13T23:19:26.698+01:002010-07-13T23:19:26.698+01:00I'm confused: was it a public meeting or a sec...I'm confused: was it a public meeting or a secret closed court of law that you wasn't allowed entry to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-91251371934916642182010-07-13T21:58:30.172+01:002010-07-13T21:58:30.172+01:00Poor old Ian Le Marquand. Try as he has and will c...Poor old Ian Le Marquand. Try as he has and will continue to do whatever case Graham Power has to face (if only he had been allowed to face it) Senator Bumble cannot get away from the fact that his part in presiding over this unjust shambles has been every bit as bad as anything GP could have done. <br /><br />But will he admit his own shortcomings? Don't be stupid. Of course he won't. I have never doubted that GP was well short of perfect but who isn't? Financial mismanaagement? Um...what about a certain Terry Le Sueur and the millions wasted at the Treasury. Nobody suspeneded. No political resignations.<br /><br />The process has been a disaster and its time Senator Bumble held up his hands. Process, process, process. Well done Big Trev. Now we await Dman and Blast tomorrow to find out how the Bog was never involved. Yeah, Honest Guv!<br /><br />Come on Deputy Hill, get GP to fire back. The gloves need to ccome off. NOW!Skippynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-5187499706815614282010-07-13T21:41:34.903+01:002010-07-13T21:41:34.903+01:00U R FAB VFC.... really really good.
Thank you for...U R FAB VFC.... really really good. <br />Thank you for all your hard work. <br /><br />Some troll may think your humour isn't real journalism, <br /><br />but msg 2 troll ......<br /><br />get real, VCR has resorted to this because the 'accredited media' aren't able to do their job properly and present both sides of anything.<br /><br />And get this,,,,,<br />One day, VFC will be honoured for his hard work, and given extra brownie points for his use of humour. You can defend all you like but we all know that history will consider the likes of VFC a good guy and the likes of you, a bad guy. <br />Whoever you are, you're on the wrong side. ner, ner, ner-ner, ner!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-79617995390673375022010-07-13T20:31:42.274+01:002010-07-13T20:31:42.274+01:00We sure do have a town full of rats, but do we rea...We sure do have a town full of rats, but do we really need Ian Le Marquand as the <a href="http://ianlevans.blogspot.com/2010/07/st-helier-should-be-twinned-with-hamlin.html" rel="nofollow">pied piper</a> ?Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-53065599359361048412010-07-13T19:53:05.281+01:002010-07-13T19:53:05.281+01:00Yes it would be nice to know who the 27 who attend...Yes it would be nice to know who the 27 who attended where, because it would seem that the other 26 have already had their minds(?) made up for themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-11522544222451493202010-07-13T19:42:38.467+01:002010-07-13T19:42:38.467+01:00Anonymous Anonymous said...
The only person ...Anonymous Anonymous said...<br /><br /> The only person who should be worried about libel right now is ILM.<br /><br />Sorry to say,its not the righteous Ian le Marqaund that will be getting sued Its going to fall on the States of Jersey and the rest of the taxpaying population not to mention those accredited media who will also be paying for this out of there taxes<br />When does it endAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-89734892371978907932010-07-13T19:32:14.996+01:002010-07-13T19:32:14.996+01:00Oh that is too funny. Unless you are registered ne...Oh that is too funny. Unless you are registered news source with insurance your not worth listening too. <br /><br />ROFLMAO <br /><br />Bit of a give a way to whos cages are being rattled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-66600348133222362122010-07-13T19:28:37.789+01:002010-07-13T19:28:37.789+01:00The only person who should be worried about libel ...The only person who should be worried about libel right now is ILM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com