tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post5363688104206777887..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Public to Discover How Much "openness" £50k can Buy?voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger156125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-7288770373773706172017-05-29T07:08:43.056+01:002017-05-29T07:08:43.056+01:00"abuse members of the Public" - What, l..."abuse members of the Public" - What, like the Death threat Troll?<br /><br />But it is not rally a member of the public. It was (and maybe still is) a political and criminal thug used by the ruling political faction to threaten child abuse victims, bloggers and opposition politicians.<br /><br />A number of politicians even did guest postings on his blog attacking the child abuse investigation.<br /><br />This character even got itself named in the UK Parliament.<br />Do you remember that?<br /><br />But yet the real "shame" of this island remains uncleansed.Jon Doe .......Still longing for status ......http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/jersey-blogger-stuart-syvret-jailed.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-25525528512240176782017-05-28T11:48:41.069+01:002017-05-28T11:48:41.069+01:00Attacking i.e. criticising politicians policies or...Attacking i.e. criticising politicians policies or even gaffs is fine. It is the multiple trolling in obsessed individuals just making up lies about people that is not. That is where the police should come in. But they don't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-56697862402675180482017-05-27T18:43:15.557+01:002017-05-27T18:43:15.557+01:00Those who put themselves into the Public Eye shoul...Those who put themselves into the Public Eye should have thick skin and be able to deal with the cross fire that comes with it.<br /><br />It is those who are in the Public Eye who use their status to abuse members of the Public who really put this Island to shame. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-226989001807864522017-05-27T16:44:13.809+01:002017-05-27T16:44:13.809+01:00Its the attacking that's putting good people o...Its the attacking that's putting good people off from standing though. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-83129005871725839292017-05-27T16:32:17.399+01:002017-05-27T16:32:17.399+01:00That is an odd turn of phrase which I find a littl...That is an odd turn of phrase which I find a little disturbing @19:06<br /><br />WHAT!!!!!<br />Are you saying Gorst and Ozouf aren't being attacked at the moment. Attacked since 7 pm yesterday? Seen Mezec attacked online today about Monkey comments. Saw Noel being savaged about Taxi fares. Think attacking politicians is very normal.<br />Who writes this guff?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-79938057935954563752017-05-27T11:44:33.234+01:002017-05-27T11:44:33.234+01:00Ozouf had marquees up in his garden yesterday pre ...Ozouf had marquees up in his garden yesterday pre announcement of gettinghis "job" back so celebrations planned in advance of announcement!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-10670496936885388832017-05-27T09:43:23.606+01:002017-05-27T09:43:23.606+01:00Anon - 21:04, some Jersey Politicians have major d...Anon - 21:04, some Jersey Politicians have major difficulties dealing with critics online whilst others do the right thing and never react. <br />From experience once a Politician reacts then they get buried with it.<br />Twitter is full of Trolls, alleged Russian Trolls, alleged ISIS Trolls and any other alleged **** stirrer who wants to try and influence public opinion on political viewpoints but this kind of thing is as old as politics itself. Satire, cartoons, spitting image, Goebbels who said that if you repeated a lie often enough it becomes a truth, same yesterday, same today. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-72482249380962743382017-05-27T09:05:56.235+01:002017-05-27T09:05:56.235+01:00The gloves are off.
The gloves are off.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-63056243902142624022017-05-27T08:55:54.065+01:002017-05-27T08:55:54.065+01:00No idea what you are talking about.
Politicians ge...No idea what you are talking about.<br />Politicians get attacked online all over the World.<br />Look at Trump, Corbyn and May at the moment. Attacks against Le Pen in France, its part of the job and they don't cry 'trolls'; they all roll with the punches and get on with their politics which will never be palatable with everyone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-89294906050456355392017-05-27T00:55:23.770+01:002017-05-27T00:55:23.770+01:00That is an odd turn of phrase which I find a littl...That is an odd turn of phrase which I find a little disturbing @19:06<br /><br />Why would any normal person want to "attack Politicians online"<br />Most commenters want to make relevant observations regarding a politician's policies, performance and behaviour.<br /><br />"Attacking" politicians is something more than "free speech" isn't it?<br />Isn't the focus is all wrong?<br /><br />And for some perhaps a small step away from posting e.g. Mr & Mrs Pitman a serviceable round of ammunition with a note attached saying "shut up or the next one is delivered by rifle" or something to that affect.<br /><br />I wonder if more fresh air and wholesome human company keeps the brain and personality healthy.Trolling and "The Dark Tetrad " : Narcissism, Machiavellianism, Psychopathy and Sadismhttps://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/science-confirms-online-trolls-are-horrible-people-also-sadists/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-37194893482511844932017-05-26T21:04:29.251+01:002017-05-26T21:04:29.251+01:00Attacking (criticism of) politicians on line is di...Attacking (criticism of) politicians on line is different to using a 100 different fake avatars to feed a deranged troll's inadequacies by the peddling of made up hate filled lies. Same as leaking a bloggers tax details which our diligent boys in blue also did nothing about. Obviously this latest case does not feature one of the boys?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-74290254662332317062017-05-26T19:06:49.737+01:002017-05-26T19:06:49.737+01:00Free Speech maybe. If people cannot attack Politi...Free Speech maybe. If people cannot attack Politicians online then we may as well live in North Korea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-56190034594279650902017-05-26T18:56:39.061+01:002017-05-26T18:56:39.061+01:00"Sure they had their reasons"
Being cor..."Sure they had their reasons"<br /><br />Being corrupt Paedo Protectors?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-79953337957762119432017-05-26T18:41:33.029+01:002017-05-26T18:41:33.029+01:00"the sort of stuff Jersey's police and At..."the sort of stuff Jersey's police and Attorney General have refused to do anything about for nearly a decade"<br /><br />Sure they had their reasons. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-2072280467235114442017-05-26T18:36:22.937+01:002017-05-26T18:36:22.937+01:00Think the Law only got tough end of last year.Think the Law only got tough end of last year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-48818952983614654992017-05-26T18:06:13.438+01:002017-05-26T18:06:13.438+01:00What did this person say? Presumably it worse than...What did this person say? Presumably it worse than posting lies and abuse about politicians and bloggers who stood up for the Jersey abuse victims? You know the sort of stuff Jersey's police and Attorney General have refused to do anything about for nearly a decade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-89189156683532986332017-05-26T16:25:09.972+01:002017-05-26T16:25:09.972+01:00Jersey - Police State.
'Man arrested over &qu...Jersey - Police State.<br /><br />'Man arrested over "offensive" Manchester terror attack comments'<br /><br />Link - http://www.bailiwickexpress.com/jsy/news/man-arrested-over-manchester-terror-attack-comments/#.WShIsWgrLIW<br /><br />http://www.bailiwickexpress.com/jsy/news/man-arrested-over-manchester-terror-attack-comments/#.WShIMWgrLIVAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-41035620170459722002017-05-26T15:39:58.061+01:002017-05-26T15:39:58.061+01:00Some people have asked for a new post. If time con...Some people have asked for a new post. If time constraints of fitting in whatever those behind this great and valuable blog need to do in their daily lives can I make a suggestion? What about an interview with someone of interest regarding their own take on what would be a good outcome of the COI?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-21185877620547520162017-05-25T22:14:07.810+01:002017-05-25T22:14:07.810+01:00I think the reader who comments 14:23 has rather j...I think the reader who comments 14:23 has rather jumbled their words somewhat. And somewhat misunderstood what the legal position and relevant issues are. Perhaps I can assist? Back in 2008/2009 William Bailhache was your Attorney General. A fact which is peculiar to Jersey in that your AG is also your Director of Public Prosecutions, and occupies therefore a structurally and unavoidably ultra vire post. The irreconcilable conflict of interests being plain. <br /><br />However, to clarify what the commenter said, one 'prosecutes' suspects, not the 'guilty'. A person may very well be prosecuted, yet be innocent. And are regraded as innocent until convicted. So I think the word the reader was intending to use was 'suspect'.<br /><br />And yes, most certainly, notwithstanding the nonsense already written by the tame silk hired by the COI when they wrongly chose to attempt to privatise a central part of their 'public inquiry' function, a very significant number of prosecutions should have taken place, but did not.<br /><br />But the real issue is this. And I fear people fail to see it. The question is, 'should William Bailhache, as a person, never mind what public office he held, have been involving himself in any such matter at all? Is it not the obvious fact given his familial, personal, and political preexisting entanglements and thus conflicts of interest, that it was not lawfully possible for him to take any official role on behalf of any 'public body' or 'public authority' in connection with the Jersey child abuse issues?'<br /><br />Unavoidably, and obviously, by any rudimentary understanding of the law, it was not possible, that is not lawfully possible, for William Bailhache to be involved in any such matter. <br /><br />So your primary position is far more basic than 'William Bailhache made the 'wrong' decisions concerning the prosecution questions back in 2008/2009'. <br /><br />The fundamental point is that 'it was simply not lawful for William Bailhache to have failed to recuse from any involvement at all, back in 2008/2009.'<br /><br />He should have recused, and played no role at all. And if your public inquiry fails to state that obvious and unavoidable fact, then it is indeed a corrupt charade. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-71611396076531352422017-05-25T21:41:57.370+01:002017-05-25T21:41:57.370+01:00So 'Mr Fagg Burns' was also 'Mr K'...So 'Mr Fagg Burns' was also 'Mr K' (that being the golf club buddy of William Bailhache Mr K, not the other 'Mr K' this incompetent COI has wrongly given the same identifying letter to) according to comment on 24th May 11.46!?<br /><br />Wow!<br /><br />I hand't realised that, I hadn't drawn those links together. Wow. If that's right, if the cigarette burn torturing maniac whose victim has been endorsed by the COI's expert, to the terminal damnation of William Bailhache who lied to the States, is the same person who was raping little girls, then, just, wow. <br /><br />Jesus.<br /><br />How much worse can the Jersey child abuse scandal get. <br /><br />Thanks for the clarification 11.46. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-1694028055471440082017-05-25T15:06:35.765+01:002017-05-25T15:06:35.765+01:00Guilty rather than "found guilty" -no ch...Guilty rather than "found guilty" -no charges ...no trial .....no justice for victims.<br /><br />Surely the cellars at HDLG would be the place to keep the abusers and the BailhachesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-18107048787464273872017-05-25T14:23:10.604+01:002017-05-25T14:23:10.604+01:00Back in 2008 / 2009, William Bailhache was the A-...Back in 2008 / 2009, William Bailhache was the A-G. If he'd done his job properly and prosecuted those found guilty instead of protecting his friends, Jersey would have required a new prison wing for all the paedos. HDLG with a cage built over it could have been a good location for a paedo prison. But alas and ironically, it's kept as an under-used private youth centre. Duh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-91537196508434098782017-05-25T09:18:48.777+01:002017-05-25T09:18:48.777+01:00Sorry,
"If a person is NOT subject to a supe...Sorry,<br /><br />"If a person is NOT subject to a superinjunction then they can face imprisonment if they say that they are under a superinjunction."<br /><br />should read:<br />If a person IS subject to a superinjunction then they can face imprisonment if they say that they are under a superinjunction.<br /><br />But I guess you did not need that explainingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-4348915246974845352017-05-25T09:13:50.380+01:002017-05-25T09:13:50.380+01:00For the few people who have not worked it out
-If ...For the few people who have not worked it out<br />-If a person is NOT subject to what is colloquially termed a "superinjunction" / "gagging order" etc. then they area are at liberty to say that they are not subject to such a thing.<br /><br />If a person is NOT subject to a superinjunction then they can face imprisonment if they say that they are under a superinjunction.<br /><br />Apart from it being the ex health minister's basic human right this might also be why it was critical for him to get legal advice to ascertain what evidence he could give to the CoI<br /><br />Mr Syvret has already been imprisoned twice and runs the gauntlet of death threats from Team-Paedo @Jersey.<br /><br />Unbelievable !<br /><br />The 'Care' Inquiry is a sick joke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-55298383312289784392017-05-25T08:36:41.944+01:002017-05-25T08:36:41.944+01:00Allow me to paste an intriguing little snippet fro...Allow me to paste an intriguing little snippet from earlier in the thread, 5 May @15:16 :<br /><br />-----------------<br /><br />At 6th May 06:34, a reader asks: - <br /><br />"I take it that Syvret is still subject to 'superinjunctions' on pain of re-imprisonment?" <br /><br />I couldn't possibly comment.<br /><br />Stuart Syvret. Shyster's Wheels -Cab for hire ....http://photopol.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/the-rag-sequel-2.htmlnoreply@blogger.com