tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post7338271031966732536..comments2024-03-20T11:09:50.796+00:00Comments on voiceforchildren: Andrew Lewis Child Abuse Committee of Inquiry Transcripts (part 2)voiceforchildrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-26694513198072920672016-04-03T17:21:58.792+01:002016-04-03T17:21:58.792+01:00Part three is now published HERE.Part three is now published <a href="http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2016/04/jersey-child-abuse-committee-of-inquiry.html" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-23238898159435613722016-04-03T16:23:34.401+01:002016-04-03T16:23:34.401+01:00Transcripts on the Inquiry site now appear to be u...Transcripts on the Inquiry site now appear to be up to date though the written submissions from those appearing are not with them.<br /><br />I don't know if any of these were posted earlier or elsewhere.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.jerseycareinquiry.org/hearings/transcripts" rel="nofollow">Link</a>Pólóhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08661092894104384856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-86157779700403593102016-04-03T11:19:43.643+01:002016-04-03T11:19:43.643+01:00It might be timely to remind new readers that The ...It might be timely to remind new readers that The Met had said that under no circumstances would they allow their review report to be used for disciplinary purposes. So Andrew Lewis was using a letter about a report which the authors had said he could not use.<br /><br />Further; The Met have since said that their review does not criticise operation rectangle or and person involved in operation rectangle.<br /><br />Quote from Operation Tuma.<br /><br />"In the Heads of Complaint made by Mr Harper he states that the review criticised a number of areas of the investigation. The review does not criticise the investigation. The Review does not criticise any individual involved in Operation Rectangle."<br /><br />More can be read <a href="http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/01/matt-tapp-files-7-operation-tuma.html" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-46752997890774771592016-04-03T10:25:56.504+01:002016-04-03T10:25:56.504+01:00Rowan Atkinson (Mr Bean) would be great as Andrew ...Rowan Atkinson (Mr Bean) would be great as Andrew Lewis, although looking like Ian Le Marquand could confuse things. Maybe the Vicki Pollard bloke from Little Britain - "Yes but no but..." Kenneth Williams would have been my first choice to portray Stuart Syvret, but as he is no longer with us I think it has to be the chap from the Harry Potter films, Daniel Ratcliff is it? Frank Walker surely has to be played by Ian Botham? Ross Kemp could be Trevor Pitman, Deputy Dawg could be Paul Routier and Simon Pegg and Nick Frost could be Neil and Rico. The Columbo guy would have been great for Lenny Harper but maybe Arnold The Terminator could learn the accent? William Bailhache is a tricky one - maybe John Cleese/Basil Fawlty if only for the height and being barking? Philip Bailhache could be played by anyone - well you don't have to remember your lines for the part do you? Job done. Can I please have £200.000 to start shooting Mike King? I meant shooting the film - not Mike King. Although...On the casting couchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-75133004642455574082016-04-03T09:47:41.848+01:002016-04-03T09:47:41.848+01:00As they say you can't polish a t***!As they say you can't polish a t***!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-89882204333160170272016-04-03T09:43:57.948+01:002016-04-03T09:43:57.948+01:00Funny how no one knew about it until he needs some...Funny how no one knew about it until he needs some major rehabilitation just to have a hope of being re-elected?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-86197708708056309792016-04-03T09:34:58.137+01:002016-04-03T09:34:58.137+01:00Andrew Lewis has been campaigning for a higher min...Andrew Lewis has been campaigning for a higher minimum wage for sometimes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-10500416102393139462016-04-03T09:04:23.150+01:002016-04-03T09:04:23.150+01:00Sorry to flag up the Andrew Lewis reinvention yet ...Sorry to flag up the Andrew Lewis reinvention yet again but .<br /><br />http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/04/03/uk-living-wage-sparks-island-recruitment-fear/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-83666365161707778072016-04-03T09:00:50.358+01:002016-04-03T09:00:50.358+01:00From the main posting:
"By reading this tran...From the main posting:<br /><br />"By reading this transcript the reader gets the impression that Deputy Lewis had no understanding of the forum he was in. This is a Child Abuse Committee of Inquiry who is searching for the truth by using documented evidence. To make recommendations to prevent such atrocities occurring in the future. To expose weaknesses and failings in the system."<br /><br />Pretty clear that the purpose of this COI is not being portrayed as a trial by this Blog.<br />voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-64596550232847022442016-04-03T08:59:04.682+01:002016-04-03T08:59:04.682+01:00@08:13
Yes, a poor substitute for justice ......d...@08:13<br /><br />Yes, a poor substitute for justice ......don't you think?<br /><br />Haven't even used the statutory powers that they do have.<br />A £26m waste of space.Click HERE to listen to Jersey States death threat troll nail itselfhttp://therightofreply.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/another-reminder-of-jerseys-freaks.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-92093103769484384412016-04-03T08:35:31.741+01:002016-04-03T08:35:31.741+01:00Is it true that there's talk about a possible ...Is it true that there's talk about a possible TV film on the handling of Haut de la Garenne?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-2894785861390542972016-04-03T08:13:54.705+01:002016-04-03T08:13:54.705+01:00What I do not get about this blog is that it still...What I do not get about this blog is that it still acts like the COI is a Court and the likes of Andrew Lewis are on trial.<br />This is a Public Inquiry so there is no trial, no summing up, no verdicts against individuals and no sentencing. It's important that people know this. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-80312934448505392702016-04-03T07:37:05.023+01:002016-04-03T07:37:05.023+01:00So it seems that the de facto 'clients' ha...So it seems that the de facto 'clients' have instructed that their CoI to let the Crown Officers and LOD off scot-free.<br /><br />But what if it is judged that wheeling out the usual hand wringing and "lessons-have-been-learnt" platitudes just won't cut it on this occasion?<br />They decide they must have a head on a plate to placate the Jersey public. Whose head will that be???<br /><br />Andrew Lewis was set up in 2008 and he looks to be being set up again. <br />......The Chief of Police who showed determination in investigating those decades of the wholesale rape, buggery and battery of Jersey's least protected children was uber fast-track suspended by an inexperienced "rogue minister" acting in isolation and against documented legal advice.<br /><br />Or perhaps Andrew can see another outcome?<br /><br /><br />The monkey has obligingly chained himself to the mast and the organ grinders are cruising off in their £26m lifeboat.<br /><br />It would be funny if it was not yet another layer to this sick tragedy of child abuse.Andrew Cluelessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-63926525526740701092016-04-02T13:32:44.930+01:002016-04-02T13:32:44.930+01:0001.30 was SPECIFICALLY NOT an "attack" ...01.30 was SPECIFICALLY NOT an "attack" on another poster viz: ".... I DON'T place the comment at 18:35 in that category ..."<br /><br />In the round you have a point 10:45 -but why is your comment little more than a personal attack rather than a positive contribution?<br />Viz: "someone who evidently thinks becoming an intellectual is the result of buying a Thesaurus is sad and ...."<br />[isn't "Thesaurus" one of the stock criticisms aimed at Mr.Syvret btw?]<br />followed by an apparent appeal to VFC to censor (JEPaedo style?)<br /><br />01.30 had a touch of "ASD spectrum" about it in that only a portion of VFC readers will be approaching the "Jersey problem" from his academic/legal/constitutional ...important as they are, and ultimately one of the strands of the eventual escape from the mire.<br /><br /><br />This is a blog for straight talking. I agree that 01.30 could have phrased his request more politely and positively but the subject matter of the voiceforchildren blog is "rude" in the extreme.<br /><br />The voiceforchildren blog is concerned with the physical, psychological and sexual abuse of children. This is RUDE. Bring it up at your next "polite" dinner party and watch the twitching hands and the eyes focus on the soup when you attempt to talk about the rape, buggery, or even the inappropriate seduction of minors.<br /><br />That is the oh-so-rude subject matter of this blog and an overriding requirement for "politeness" is one of the things which has protected the child abusers and shysters of this island for so many decades. ....."OH isn't that Mr.Syvret just too rude!"<br /><br />Hissy fit over so we can concentrate on the subject matter of this blog posting ......Andrew Lewis lying as part of an orchestrated cover up of the rape, buggery and battery of minors on an industrial scale. <br />Please.Click HERE to listen to Jersey States death threat troll nail itself .......http://therightofreply.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/another-reminder-of-jerseys-freaks.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-75201582448961261182016-04-02T10:45:41.635+01:002016-04-02T10:45:41.635+01:00What an unnecessarily rude and decidely ignorant a...What an unnecessarily rude and decidely ignorant attack on a poster @01.30. It is obvious the person making an observation about Gorst's comments as certainly reported by the JEP was making a genuine, if brief comment. To see him or her then insulted by someone who evidently thinks becoming an intellectual is the result of buying a Thesaurus is sad and counterproductive in the extreme. Please keep things polite VFC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-75547196244396315242016-04-02T09:20:06.717+01:002016-04-02T09:20:06.717+01:00Agree heartily with 01:30 above. I try to do what ...Agree heartily with 01:30 above. I try to do what they say where relevant, because, as they say, it's not only a question non Jersey MSM readers but also future readers including historians who may wish to follow up links.<br /><br />Pólóhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08661092894104384856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-57363205384821618292016-04-02T09:14:20.146+01:002016-04-02T09:14:20.146+01:00A photo of that worthy politician Andrew Lewis on ...A photo of that worthy politician Andrew Lewis on the front page of the JEP ( dead tree version) today, supporting a living wage for the hard working citizens of Jersey.<br />Do not be fooled this is a continuing part of a 'restore and reinvent ' the Andrew Lewis path to greatness . It is being planned to culminate in a Chief Minister bid in 2018 . <br />Sorry Rico but please do not be taken in seemingly impossible vision... Look at the evidence !<br />A world with Donald Trump as President , George Osborne as Prime Minister Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-63066822022264112372016-04-02T08:19:18.107+01:002016-04-02T08:19:18.107+01:00@01:30
The "unconflicted Bailiff"......A...@01:30<br />The "unconflicted Bailiff"......April Fool?<br />was prior to the publication of your comment and was not directed at you.<br /><br />The information you seek 01:30 is a little thin at present. You will find a write up at:<br /><br />http://sammezec.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/a-squalid-compromise-to-please-no-one.html<br /><br />and a very brief JEPaedo report at:<br /><br />http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/04/01/chief-ministers-simple-answer-to-dual-role-of-bailiff/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-14847858326863234802016-04-02T08:04:49.345+01:002016-04-02T08:04:49.345+01:00I have written a blog covering this subject (June ...I have written a blog covering this subject (June 2012 debate) and hope to publish after the weekend.voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-6182603733848476242016-04-02T06:57:38.712+01:002016-04-02T06:57:38.712+01:00"unconflicted Bailiff"
April Fool?"unconflicted Bailiff"<br /><br />April Fool?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-80710172963604505432016-04-02T01:30:53.496+01:002016-04-02T01:30:53.496+01:00Could I ask where and when this fascinating declar...Could I ask where and when this fascinating declaration by the City of London Corporation's Ian Gorst was said? And could we have a reference please? In fact, could the relevant article be quoted? <br /><br />As a general point, and I think this is important for VFC and those who comment here to note if they wish to be effective in reaching out to and informing what I think is a large global audience of those with a specialist interest in the many legal and constitutional issues which continue to burgeon out of the Jersey situation? You must start to be more focused on including facts in the comments here, as opposed to justified, but ultimately empty rhetorical observations. <br /><br />It's certainly noticeable that there's no sensible and fact-based debate below-the-line to be found on any of Jersey's Establishment media. The Jersey non-establishment blogs represent a new source of facts, evidence and comparatively high-quality public debate, one which the historians of the future will turn to as a primary source, to compare and contrast with the "official" media of the island. <br /><br />Being one of your global readers, as a 'critical friend' I need to say there's been a down-turn in the substance and quality of comments here, under the last posting especially. I hope that isn't going to be the case here or under future postings. <br /><br />It's a good thing that a diversity of opinions get published here. But, dare I say it, the comments under your last posting began to move towards similar territory as the type of comments which appear below-the-line on Jersey's establishment media; essentially empty exchanges between about 2 or 3 multi-avatar individuals, of about as much interest to curious, thinking society in general as the sight of a couple of bald drunkards fighting over a comb in a park. <br /><br />Whilst I don't place the comment at 18:35 in that category, it does represent a kind of empty "toy-town" observation, which can, surely, only be addressed by its author to other inhabitants of toy-town, such as readers of the Jersey Evening Post?<br /><br />Serious and curious readers of this blog don't follow your establishment's media. To those people, a comment such as that at 18:35 which draws our attention to a singularly important matter, your conflicted sock-puppet of a Chief-Minister endorsing what is obviously to anyone who understands law, a fundamental unlawful structure of a "Bailiwick", but does so without reference to where the story can be found, let alone a link by which we might read it, just doesn't help us I'm afraid. <br /><br />Can I urge VFC and those who comment here to please, please remember that the real world doesn't follow the toy-town media of Jersey. So when we read a comment such as "Did anyone note Gorst sucking up about keeping the 'unconflicted' Bailiff?" the obvious answer to that question from serious and interested observers is "no". <br /><br />I get the worrying impression that comments on this site have started to get sucked into the "thinking" that they're addressing the same audience, and can therefore be of a similar content and style, to the type of empty and pointless belligerence to be found in below-the-line exchanges on your island's msm.<br /><br />I have a genuine (and specialist) public interest in following the extraordinary lawless events in Jersey of the last decade, events which seemingly become more lawless by the week. And I sometimes take time to contribute to the debate here (as I've done now) but I'll be damned if I'm going spend time trawling through the rubbish of your establishment's "state-media" to try and divine what commenters here are referring to. <br /><br />An Interested Reader, London.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-20877851327521892452016-04-01T21:50:46.396+01:002016-04-01T21:50:46.396+01:00Indeed Polo, this is what Philip Bailhache had to ...Indeed Polo, this is what Philip Bailhache had to say:<br /><br />"Some Members have said that the transcripts clarify matters and therefore they should be put into the public domain. I must say that as a new Member I do not share that view at all. If you are a new Member you need a great deal more information than we have heard this afternoon in order to understand what is going on. I suspect that if you are an ordinary member of the public you will need even more than that. If it is important to dredge up this old and hoary controversy then it seems to me that a case for that should be made openly and frankly. I am sure that this was not the intention of Deputy Higgins but I am afraid that the release of these transcripts of the in camera debate would lead only to muckraking to the advantage of no one. I am going to vote against the proposition."<br /><br />No mention that he chaired the original 2008 debate as the then Bailiff. Whilst technically a newly elected member in 2012, it is sophistry of the highest order to suggest that he needs "a great deal more information than we have heard this afternoon" when HE CHAIRED THE ORIGINAL DEBATE AND MADE CONTRIBUTIONS TO IT.<br /><br />Genuinely new members (as opposed to those who had been Deputy of Grouville in the 1970s, and then ex-officio President of the States for many years - see <a href="http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/about/history/Pages/BailiffJersey.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/about/history/Pages/BailiffJersey.aspx</a>) when reading the 2008 transcript for the first time, would simply have read 'The Bailiff' against Philip Bailhache's 2008 interventions. For example, when Philip Bailhache told Andrew Lewis "Minister, do not go down this road, please."<br /><br />It's pretty outrageous that he tries to cast himself as a confused new member.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-82713709405330560672016-04-01T18:35:59.253+01:002016-04-01T18:35:59.253+01:00Bit quiet today? Did anyone note Gorst sucking up ...Bit quiet today? Did anyone note Gorst sucking up about keeping the 'unconflicted' Bailiff? Easy to see why it all runs on and on. As above no one must touch the Crown Officers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-55746006368524429312016-04-01T10:11:39.254+01:002016-04-01T10:11:39.254+01:00It is two years to the next election. Not a long t...It is two years to the next election. Not a long time at all. But what can we realistically hope to change? IMHO not a lot. The quality candidates to oust a States filled with at least 45 buffoons just aren't there in sufficient number. So will any of you bloggers be willing to have a go?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591695769525894359.post-87652444719835146072016-04-01T10:02:50.128+01:002016-04-01T10:02:50.128+01:00Surely you missed that line that says 'Basical...Surely you missed that line that says 'Basically Andrew is full of ***' Or did I dream that bit of integrity?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com