Sunday, 11 June 2017

Be Careful what (who) You Wish for.



Chief Minister Ian Gorst.


Now that the vote of no confidence against Chief Minister Senator Ian Gorst has been officially LODGED It's potential implications need to be examined and some pragmatic questions asked should it succeed.

Including Constable Taylor (the mover of the proposition) 14 States Members have signed the proposition and agree the Chief Minister should go. There is a rule of thumb, or an unwritten rule, that if a vote of no confidence against a Minister is brought then the proposer of the proposition should put themselves forward for the post. In this case Constable Taylor has publicly stated that he doesn't want the job claiming he has "the best job in the world" being Constable of St. John. None of the other 13 signatories have publicly declared an interest in the top job either.

So where does this leave us should the proposition be successful? As things stand NOBODY has put their name forward to replace the Chief Minister and 14 politicians have signed a proposition to get rid of him without knowing who his replacement might be. Some names have been banded around who might make a good/competent Chief Minister but none of these people have publicly declared they want the job.

Deputy of St. John Tracy Vallois' name has been mentioned a few times, not least by her Constable, that she could fill the Chief Minister's shoes. She has since ruled herself out of the running. Treasury Minister Senator Alan Maclean's name has also come up in the mix but he has not said anything publicly about it that we are aware of.

Another name that is strongly rumoured and there is a real possibility (he has previously ran for the post) that former Bailiff and current External Relations Minister Senator Philip Bailhache could put his name forward and has a good chance of winning the vote. He was asked on BBC Radio Jersey recently if he would stand for the position and would not give a categoric "NO." This only serves to strengthen the rumour and possibility of him putting his name forward.

Looking at this as an Anti Child Abuse Campaigner there could not be anything more concerning than the thought of senator Bailhache becoming our next Chief Minister. The former Attorney General and former Bailiff has consistently attempted to derail the Child Abuse Committee of Inquiry. He spoke against giving the Inquiry extra funding HERE. He stands accused of receiving a leaked witness statement and attempting to intimidate WITNESSES to the Inquiry, accusations he strongly denies.  He has employed what have been termed as "scare tactics" by indicating the Inquiry's cost could reach as much as £50m (it cost less than half that amount). Whilst Bailiff he gave an infamous speech at his Liberation Day address saying:

"All child abuse, wherever it happens, is scandalous, but it is the unjustified and remorseless denigration of Jersey and her people that is the real scandal".

A man who seems to believe that children being horrendously abused and tortured in the "care" of the States of Jersey, and elsewhere, is less scandalous than Jersey getting some bad press?

From the TRANSCRIPTS of the Jersey Child Abuse Committee of Inquiry. Senator Bailhache being questioned by Counsel to the Inquiry Patrick Sadd:

Q. Did you discuss the (Liberation Day) speech and the draft with anyone?







A. I usually used my family as a sounding board on these occasions. I find my children to be my most ferocious critics so I would have shared it in the family, but beyond that, no.




Q. Does your family include your brother William?





A. I think not on this occasion.








Q. So aside from your family you discussed it with no one else?





A. No.








Q. Before making that speech, Sir Philip, the suggestion that damage to Jersey's reputation was "the real scandal" {WD009001/2}, did you consider the effect that this might have for instance first on those victims who had come forward to say they had been abused?


A. I think, Mr Sadd, I would have considered all the circumstances in the round. I can't -- I don't think I can say to you that I specifically identified the alleged victims as a group of people to be considered, (emphasis added) but I certainly would have viewed the matter in the round.(END)




Firstly he refers to the Victims/Survivors as "alleged" despite there being a number of convictions against abusers all be it a couple of Lambs thrown to the SLAUGHTER and indeed the numerous cases that weren't taken to a JERSEY COURT by, among others, Senator Bailhache's brother, former Attorney General and current Bailiff William Bailhache. Who has serious questions of his own to ANSWER.

Secondly he states:  "I don't think I can say to you that I specifically identified the alleged victims as a group of people to be considered,"

He is giving a political speech on a Liberation Day about Child Abuse and didn't consider the Victims/Survivors?

Thirdly he should be aware that there are more "ferocious critics"than his family members and he should be using them as a "sounding board" as he is being hopelessly let down by his family members.

Then we come to his apparent desire for Jersey to break ties with the UK and become independent. Quoted in an ARTICLE (June 2012) by The Guardian Newspaper as saying:

"The island should be prepared to stand up for itself and should be ready to become independent if it were necessary in Jersey's interest to do so."



Former Chief Police Officer Graham Power QPM


The former (possibly illegally suspended) Chief Police Officer Graham Power QPM wrote in his (BURIED BY THE MEDIA) interim defence case to the Wiltshire Constabulary:

"Such views are not confined to the older elements of the honorary service. They can be found, albeit in a more developed form, in the senior levels of government and the legal establishment where some notable figures favour an eventual severance of links with the U.K. and would see the ready acceptance of U.K. working practices as running counter to this agenda. I recall that in 2007 I assisted a small working group which included, among others, the Bailiff Sir Philip Bailhache and the Attorney General William Bailhache. The purpose of the group was to prepare a draft contingency plan for complete independence. I submitted papers to the group on the implications for law enforcement, and used some contacts from my previous role to offer suggestions as to who outside of the island, could assist in developing such a plan. I provided contact details of key figures in the Scottish Government and Administration including the Scottish National Party. I recall that some of the advice and contacts I provided were in an email I sent, probably in July 2007. This and other experiences reinforced my understanding that there was a tide flowing against closer association with the U.K, and a strong local agenda to develop working models and solutions within the island."(END)

VFC can also confirm that Senator Bailhache does NOT have the confidence of the Jersey Care Leavers Association (JCLA) or any Victims/Survivors we have spoken to. Senator Gorst on the other hand DOES have the confidence of the JCLA.

The Jersey Child Abuse Committee of Inquiry is due to publish its final report within weeks and it is anticipated that those in power at the time, both judicially and politically, are going to be heavily criticised.

Chief Minister Gorst has been a supporter of the Child Abuse Committee of Inquiry, firstly by voting for it to happen in the first place (Senator Bailhache was absent for the vote) and secondly for bringing the successful proposition to grant the Inquiry further funding. (Which Senator Bailhache spoke against but did not vote because of conflict.)

We don't know for sure that Senator Bailhache will throw his hat in the ring for the top job or indeed if he will achieve enough votes to get the job. What we are saying is that it's not worth the risk. (In our opinion)

Readers (including politicians) should seriously be considering what the implications could be of getting rid of Gorst. We are not saying that he is the perfect person for the job and that he hasn't got questions to answer concerning his leadership. What we are saying to politicians: You need to find out who might end up with the job if Gorst goes before you cast your vote. To readers/members of the public; don't lobby your States Member to get rid of Gorst until we know who his replacement might be. Be careful what (who) you wish for............................

170 comments:

  1. Is the vote before or after the care inquiry report release?

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  2. The Frondeurs are looking rather timid in their rebellion. Rebellions only succeed if those who execute them are prepared to act with ruthless determination. I see none of that here.

    At least a of number of Members have got themselves into a loose coalition, albeit it's pretty wet and lacks any real policy alternative. The Proposition of no confidence mentions only 3 discontents.

    For a real alternative working people will have to organise their own politics, political representatives and policies that work in their interest, not those of Finance.

    We can be inspired by the success of Jeremy Corbyn and the social insurrection that is occurring around a revived social democracy with genuinely left policies. Some of this will rub of here, perhaps at the next general election when Labour might form a government. Then and only then, might they turn their attention to the democratic deficiencies of Channel Island governments.

    VFC is correct to warn against a new leadership in the Ruling Party that comes from the socially illiberal wing of the Jersey Ruling class, with its intimate connections to the deep state and traditional old money. Beware of the "Jersey way"

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    1. Nick,
      As an alleged "Tory Boy" I agree with a good deal of that "with its intimate connections to the deep state and traditional old money" etc

      As someone who cares about the future of the British Isles I personally think may be a lovely chap but is a danger to the nation(s) on a whole bunch of levels (but let's not stray off the subject of this blog)

      As a child protection activist I did not think your comments about a certain "Bailhache Babe" were that unfair or out of place.

      Thank you for your comment but I fully expect you to be trolled in an attempt to divert this blog.

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    2. Sorry, should read
      I personally think *Jeremy Corbyn* may be a lovely chap

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    3. Are you nominating him for Chief Minister? I second that.

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    4. No, I think Nick needs to gain a lot more support first
      :-)

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    5. As an "Old Bolshevik", I would certainly endorse JC as Chief Minister. He couldn't do any worse than the present COM.

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  3. I really don't believe it matters anymore. Bailhace, Gorst or even Ozouf. Bailhace is now in his 70'and nearing retirement. It's just the same old Muppet Show. The Chamber is at a collective all time low.. Gorst to his credit has backed the COI but does it really matter. The Whole political set up in Jersey is a disaster.

    I getting to the stage where I'm passed caring.

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  4. COI ... Gorst pro Bailhache ante
    Independence ... Gorst ante Bailhache pro
    Dual role of Bailifff ... Gorst ante Bailhache pro
    In my view, as the person who warned " be careful what you wish for" in previous posts, I am frankly very surprised that Gorst has managed to survive this long.
    P

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  5. COI ... Gorst pro Bailhache ante
    Independence ... Gorst ante Bailhache pro
    Dual role of Bailifff ... Gorst ante Bailhache pro
    In my view, as the person who warned " be careful what you wish for" in previous posts, I am frankly very surprised that Gorst has managed to survive this long.
    P

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  6. We should remember that after Bailhache's outrageous speech letting slip for once the true uncaring face of Jersey's elite the one person barve and sickened enough to bring a vote of no confidence in the island's self-styled King was not a man but a woman.

    The excellent Deputy Shona Pitman.

    Where were all the other brave people when the vote happened? Mrs Pitman was supported only by Senator Stuart Syvret (not surprising) and the often maligned if ever capable Deputy Geoff Southern. Most of our States Members were even too scared to speak against the great one or else complained what a disgrace it was that Deputy Pitman was bringing the no confidence vote.

    If any of us ever wonder why our island is in a mess the above explains all we need to know.

    AS for Tracey Vallois - you are having a laugh aren't you? Useless non-entity whom I cannot recall ever doing anything in our island's interest in her three electoral terms. Honestly don't know who amongst the current bunch would be strong enough to face the slings and arrows.

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  7. Suggesting Alan MacLean for Chief Minister is an even bigger joke. The man is even thicker than his infamous ringbinder that voted for the town park. Tend to agree on Pitman though. We have no female politicians of her integrity and work ethic now.

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  8. Its the same old arguments about the same set of States Reps.
    If we really want to initiate change we can do so very easily by voiding non-contested elections at the nomination stage. 17 Of the existing States Members - including 11 of the 12 Constables were returned uncontested. A voiding requirement that ALL elections are contested will dramatically change the so called democratic process in Jersey and will have far more impact than choosing any of the existing clones to be CM. Coupled with a "none of the above" box on voting slips such simple reforms will change Jersey politics and will cost noting to implement. Furthermore these reforms can be enacted before the May 2108 election - what is there to lose?

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  9. I give in, I will run for chief minister. You won't recognize Jersey when I have done a spring clean.
    JH

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  10. I am no fan of Gorst and did originally support the VONC against him but I have revised my position. The thought of Sir Philip taking the reins whilst his brother is Bailiff and both of their antics against the abuse victims as spelled out in this article. I have to support Gorst unless somebody capable comes forward. Who that somebody could be is the dilemma because if I'm honest there is nobody in the states who I think could do the job.

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    1. Here's a bold thought, what about one of Reform Jersey for CM? Although there is no way they would be elected.

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  11. Remember, Gorst can lose his Vote of No Confidence, have to resign as Chief Minister, then there is nothing stopping him from putting his name forward again immediately.

    Some might want to support the VONC to give him a bloody nose and convince him to get rid of Ozouf, then reelect him to carry on with slightly changed direction.

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    1. Isn't that just making a mockery of the process while still giving Philip Bailhache the chance to become Chief Minister, break ties with the UK, and fulfil his lifelong dream and have an independent Jersey?

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    2. I may have a solution to the Bailhache problem. Can't promise but will see what I can do. How soon is the vote of no confidence?
      I.M. Not-Stuart

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    3. I believe it is the first order of business to be debated at the next States sitting (Tuesday20th June). If Gorst loses there is a very real chance Philip Bailhache could be Chief Minister before the COI publishes its report. How's that for timing?

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    4. It all sounds a bit like the situation in the UK. I will make best effort to slip some work and leave the island on Friday and see what we can do about all this. No promises.
      I.M. Not-Stuart

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    5. And pigs can fly ...

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    6. Yes, they do that as well, and read confidential documents on planes, but whether or not you have seen a pig fly or what they read as they flew, I will be on the ferry and will do what I can do, which may be futile but as I said, no promises. There is no magic solution tree here. But sometimes many small and ongoing efforts make a difference, a difference that is not accurately reported in the MSM, if you know what I am talking about.

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    7. Saddle up; you are going pigsticking !13 June 2017 at 09:36

      Thank you anon. Good luck.

      Please let team voice know how it goes.

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    8. Absolutely.

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    9. The ferry is cancelled tomorrow. But don't worry, that was taken into account.

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  12. Its a shame that Roy Le Herissier and/or Trevor Pitman are not still in the States. Both would have made very good, if very different Chief Ministers.

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  13. Should Gorst lose his seat can we guarantee THIS MEETING will still take place if Philip Bailhache is the Chief Minister?

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  14. Some important commentary in this blog and good on Team Voice for highlighting the interview with Bailhache on his disgraceful Liberation Day speech.

    Just to provide a perspective from what I can gather speaking to other States Members from across the political spectrum, I think that the level of support that Bailhache had in 2011 has largely disappeared.

    Many members who are right wing and part of the establishment know that the CoI report is going to cause a "bloodbath" in Jersey politics (their words, not mine). They know that Bailhache isn't an option.

    For me, the motion is "are you of the opinion that you have no confidence in Ian Gorst as Chief Minister" and the answer to that is yes.

    There are legitimate political tactical things to consider, but ultimately I think politicians should vote according to what they believe in.

    Gorst is the wrong man to lead Jersey and I cannot vote to endorse his position. I feel I can do that with confidence that Bailhache will certainly not take over.

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    1. I agree with you 100% Sam, and I have e-mailed my Parish Constable and Deputy on this matter, but the sticking point seems to be just who will take up the reins if/when Gorst is voted out. There is no doubt in my mind that he should go, but Bailhache and Ozouf are big no-no's. The timing is also very unfortunate with the report due out very shortly after this VoNC which makes Bailhache an even bigger threat.

      This is an opportunity for our elected to vote with their consciences and the greater good of the Island. For the sake of the survivors of child abuse and all they have suffered please ensure PB will not be standing.

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    2. Sam. I respect your views in that you feel Gorst is the wrong man to lead Jersey. But none of us have any idea who will replace him. Are you about to get rid of one "wrong leader" just to replace him with another one? Where is the benefit in that?

      As mentioned in the main Blog Posting I am looking at this as an Anti Child Abuse Campaigner and from that perspective Gorst might not have been perfect in all he has done but he has the confidence of the JCLA and indeed has my confidence that he is going to do the right thing by the COI'S report. Philip Bailhache isn't the only politician in there who wants this report buried and "The Jersey Way" to continue. He is one of the many (politicians) who want this. Gorst's replacement could be as equally as dangerous as Philip Bailhache. We just don't know and this is not a gamble I, as an Anti Child Abuse Campaigner, would be willing to take just weeks before the COI report is published.

      Until we know who will replace Gorst this proposition should not even be debated. The stakes are too high for the Victims/Survivors and the good people of Jersey.

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    3. Maybe Gorst knows that the COI results will not be in the establishments favour.
      Maybe that's why he brought back Ozouf....
      Maybe he purposely wants ousting!?

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    4. I very much doubt that. It was (as mentioned in main posting) Gorst who has consistently backed this COI and from what I know his "hands are clean." He has never been a part of the judiciary and pretty much has nothing to hide. The same can't be said for others.

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    5. His hands aren't clean.

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    6. He does have something to 'hide'. He is a coward who knows about judicial corruption but was too scared to go up against the Bailiff. A horrible, lilly-livered gerbil of a man.Give the job to Anne Pryke. The COM should surely collapse by tea time the same day.

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    7. "He does have something to 'hide'. He is a coward who knows about judicial corruption but was too scared to go up against the Bailiff. A horrible, lilly-livered gerbil of a man. Give the job to Anne Pryke. The COM should surely collapse by tea time the same day."

      Yep.

      Ian Gorst - the inadequates' inadequate.

      Words and phrases like out-of-his-depth, weak, intellectually feeble, sock-puppet, ignorant, directionless, unethical, legally illiterate, spineless and pro-cover-up - are scarcely adequate to even begin describing Ian Gorst.

      Remember - this is the Ian Gorst - whose father-in-law is an old-school, big-time, Jersey oligarchy Freemason.

      This is the Ian Gorst - who was only even encouraged and promoted to get into Jersey politics by his puppeteers in the City-of-London Commune & the indivisible Conservative Party - because those grifters had the smarts to recognise the alternative - such as Phil-the-functional-psychopath-Bailhache - could only ever accelerate the escape of Jersey from their control.

      Which is - exactly - why the inevitable processes Jersey must go through - to escape being a feudatory - must embrace the cancer of a Bailhache chief minister.

      Those responsible for our oppression, our suppression - our endurance of utter state criminality - of the complete break-down in the very rule of law - our suffering of police-state - monarchy-powered - gangster sabotage of free & functioning democracy - the interference with lawful representation and the obstruction of the lawful discharge of laws to protect the vulnerable - such as the Children (Jersey) Law 2002 - those people - the supporters of Jersey-As-A-Potemkin-Village - they want - they need - spineless, "inoffensive" sock-puppets such as Ian Gorst.

      They have the smarts to see a chief minister sociopath - such as one of the Bailhache-Brothers - means The-End.

      This community has to go through the fire; we must be rid of "A horrible, lilly-livered gerbil of a man" - in Ian Gorst - and instead let the toxic - undisguisably feudal-fascist Bailhache Brothers been seen for what they are.

      At present - Ian Gorst is a sock-puppet of "respectability" - behind which the responsible authorities in London are able to hide.

      That must end.

      Let them suffer the true face of the gangster regime they've protected.

      Stuart Syvret.

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    8. Agreed Stuart, that would be more than interesting to watch,people do not really believe what goes on in Jersey.I only just escaped being done for a crime I did not commit, but many others like yourself have been hammered, being taken to court for a crime you have not committed is horrible enough, being set up & convicted of one as many have is a travesty of Justice & a total disgrace of the Jersey Way!

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  15. Excellent blog post VFC, as is the comment by Sam Mezec.

    Any chance of you posting a link to your blog post on the Facebook Politics Jersey page? https://www.facebook.com/groups/PoliticsJersey/

    There's plenty of people wise to Bailhache there, but the word needs to be spread even further and even wider. Look how social media helped Jeremy Corbyn. Spread the word on FB and Twitter as much as you can.

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  16. Did we ever find out how Philip Bailhache came to know the number of pages in Lenny Harper's witness statement, before the statement was made public?

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  17. Does any of this really matter? Jersey is screwed. Too late to do anything about it all now. Just have to wait for the Evil Doers as George W Bush used to say to drop dead.

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  18. The Bailhaches are ruling the roost at present. But as Sam said they are knocking on. 70 years old infact. Will they be ruling the roost in ten years time, at 80?

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    1. Perhaps they are dead already? Political zombies kept going by some demonic force?

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  19. I think It is irresponsible, immature and unprincipled of our elected politicians to call for Gorsts removal without putting forward an alternative. Grow up all of you.

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  20. A vote of no confidence just before the COI report is due is madness and can only detract, once again, from the proper consideration of the 'state-sponsored' child abuse that occurred in care homes for children on the island of jersey.

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    1. Furthermore, I do believe that the COI report will get more of a public airing under Gorst than under any other potential replacement CM. Gorst is the only leading establishment figure who has regularly come out in support of the COI.

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  21. Gorst will survive this VONC if only because no minister will risk voting to oust him and that failing, so making their own position untenable.

    The Taylor gang need to put a person forward as an alternative. Probably Crowcroft who I view as a bone idel populist but many still seem to think has some credibility. Without an alternative candidate this will just not happen.

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  22. I would like to see Philip Bailhache as Chief Minister. Then he can take us back to the 17th century when bolshie peasants knew their place and leave political disasters to the rich. You know it makes sense.

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    1. Maybe the DUP could open a Jersey branch and nominate Bailhache for Chief Minister.

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    2. Sam @ 17:11

      Who knows what they may already have stashed in Jersey?

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  23. Its amazing that Gorst, as an Englishman, is Chief Minister. How could the traditional elites permit it? He didn't go to Victoria College.

    We know how conservative and traditional are our rulers and how a Jersey pedigree is important for the chauvinist electorate. Its always said that a "Jersey" surname is worth extra votes, save that is unless it is Le Cornu,which is certainly too left wing, democratic and of peasant origin.

    Its Finance of course. Coming from that background is vital to confidence among supporters of the Ruling Party in our one party state.

    I see no real policy alternative being put forward by the Frondeurs, many of whom in any case will have voted for Gorst and the Ruling Party leadership.

    Discontent with the political class and its attendant media is manifest in the 81% voter abstention - a sort of "up yours" to rulers. Since neither have any respect for the other, why should the electorate humiliate themselves by turning up to endorse a bunch of rascals?

    Ironically (and I know Jersey doesn't do irony), things will only change when the electorate engages. Some, it seems, are still just too comfortable.

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  24. Good letter from Ted Vibert in the JEPravda about Ozouf and Innovation Fund shambles. Almost worth the 70p rip off?

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  25. In tonight's JEP on line - another shocking tale of inaction and neglect of children. This why we need a CM who is supportive of the Inquiry and its recommendations, because nothing, but nothing has been learnt by the agencies trusted with the care of children. Shocking.

    TWO drug-addicted parents injected heroin in front of at least one of their three children and treated them so poorly they were left malnourished, according to a serious case review.

    The review into the care of three siblings between 2005 and 2015 found that their mother and her partner had been using drugs at home but that very little had been done to ensure the children’s safety.

    The family, who were referred to in the report as the H family, were monitored on several occasions throughout the decade-long period but it was not until 2015 that the two eldest children were placed in foster care.

    According to the report, in 2008, when the mother was pregnant with her second child, both parents injected heroin – possibly in front of the first child. The second child was eventually born drug-dependent.

    Drug-using family friends were also invited to the home. All three children were physically abused and left malnourished.

    The Safeguarding Children Partnership Board said the review had proved that families needed support at an earlier stage.

    Earlier this year, the Education Department announced that five family support workers are to be appointed later this year to work with struggling parents in their homes and assist with everyday tasks.

    Other recommendations included:
    • Making sure all agencies understand their responsibilities so there is clear identification of risks, concerns and strengths
    • Safeguarding Children Partnership Board training identifying neglect and its impact on children
    • Reviewing and improving practices in cases where children are repeatedly not brought to health checks and appointments

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    1. 2 of these fell off the radar because they were Portuguese.

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    2. Gillian, Please could we copy this post for someone who is documenting these failures?

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    3. Absolutely no problem - I feel so very strongly about this.

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    4. Awesome, thanks.

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  26. Hi VFC

    Anyone know where we (the taxpayers who paid for it) can get hold of a copy of the Operation Belfong report?

    http://www.bailiwickexpress.com/jsy/news/investigation-reveals-police-officers-insulted-sneaky-so-and-so-emails

    Clearly Bailiwick Express have been given a copy. It must be put online for the public to read. The days are gone where you can give a copy of a report to your cosy mates in the media, all on the quiet. We, the public, insist on seeing a copy immediately.

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  27. @21.20

    The days are gone where you can give a copy of a report to your cosy mates in the media, all on the quiet. We, the public, insist on seeing a copy immediately.

    I am afraid your principle is correct however this is Jersey. The CA General published the report into the Jersey Innovation Fund loan to Logfiller Ltd and others. We know all about that failure. The States commisioned three different reports. Only one is to be released the other two are not for the publics eyes according to Gorst.

    You were saying ?

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  28. Is it correct that Deputy Higgins is on the radio about this tomorrow? Very odd how most of this all happened after Graham Power was shafted?

    Surely Warcop and Gameshow Mike can't be to blame?

    Good that we have politicians like Higgins to tackle these issues. Think without him, Pitman and Wimberley this scandal never would have been heard of.

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  29. I see the PSNI report into the Boshat case has been submitted/published? Any idea where it can be found and is Lenny Harper intending to make any comment in advance of 3 July when, no doubt, it will be extensively commented on by media/States?

    Link

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    1. Polo.

      When Lenny heard of this investigation he offered to give evidence/statement to PSNI and was told (words similar) that they don't need to talk to him as he is not in their TOR's.

      When one looks at the article you have linked to the major perceived police corruption happened between 2009-2013 Lenny retired in 2008. The people with some difficult questions to answer are predominantly CPO Mike Bowron and former DCO Barry Taylor.

      I have looked for the report online but haven't come across it yet. I don't think Lenny is planning to comment before the COI report is published but quite sure he will have something to say after.

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    2. Its because of Lenny Harper that the Report was required in the 1st place.
      Just carry on ignoring opinion elsewhere like you normally do.

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    3. Aren’t you ignoring the fact that the apparent “failings” of the cops, identified in the report, were between 2009 and 2013 and Lenny Harper retired in 2008? Shouldn’t you be asking questions of Mike Bowron/Barry Taylor?

      From what I have read; the biggest criticisms in the report are how the SOJP (mis)handled the complainants’ FOI requests. There wasn’t even an FOI Law in 2008 when Mr. Harper retired. Questions need asking of Mike Bowron who IS still employed at the SOJP.

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    4. Sharrock Basilrat14 June 2017 at 14:16

      Good points vfc. I think our anonymous is rather obsesssssssssed with the good Mr Harper.

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    5. Would Bowron be taking his early retirement because of this? Most of Jersey's public servants who take this route have done something wrong and get hugely rewarded for it!

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  30. Sharrock Basilrat14 June 2017 at 11:03

    Lenny Harper was a truly great police officer. This report clearly shows how things went down hill after him and Graham Power were out of the way.

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  31. Voice, please could I do a copy of this blog post, I mean could I print this post, not could I link it.
    Thanks.

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  32. Is this why bowron is retiring suddenly?

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  33. Hi VFC

    Buried away, 6 days ago, on the States of Jersey website, is the full Operation Belfong report. I urge all readers to read it.

    https://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Caring%20and%20support/R%20Operation%20Belfong%20Report%20June%202017%2020170612%20DS.pdf

    As can be expected from our "transparent and open" government, this report was not highlighted in the Newsroom section on the home page of the website. That section is of course only reserved for nice, fluffy, positive stories.

    I had to google "Operation Belfong" to find it.

    The report makes grim reading for Mike Bowron and Emma Martins. Let me quote just two key findings in the report:

    "15. Serious organisational and individual failings by the SoJP, in respect of the processing of Subject Access Requests, were not confined to the Complainant’s case."

    "19. Witnesses interviewed during the course of the Enquiry Team’s investigation have voiced their concerns as to the effectiveness of the Office of the Information Commissioner."

    In particular, in section 14, referring to Finding 19, the report says:

    "14.19.6 It is now clear that there were serious failings by the SoJP in adherence to the Data Protection (Jersey) Law 2005. These shortcomings have continued over a considerable number of years. The Office of the Information Commissioner is the body tasked by the States Assembly with ensuring adherence to Data Protection and FoI matters. They are therefore the most appropriate body to have ensured that the SoJP was complying with the requirements of Data Protection and FoI. They had, and continue to have, the powers to tackle matters relating to one-off and systemic failures to adhere to these requirements and have a number of legally enforceable tools to be able to do this."

    Translation: SOJP routinely disregards DP legislation. Information Commissioner does **** all about it.

    I have to ask the obvious question, that any self respecting JOURNALIST in Jersey ought to be asking:

    Why is it that Information Commissioner Emma Martins, herself a former civilian employee of the States of Jersey Police, has apparently not held the States of Jersey Police to account, for multiple systemic data protection failings over many years?

    Nothing to see here people, move along.

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    1. Thanks Anonymous at 1:23

      A most interesting report and a good thorough job done by the PSNI.

      While not wishing to comment on the Boschat case as such, there are a few elements of the report which are relevant to the Jersey Inquiry.

      Lenny Harper is criticised by implication in the report both in relation to day books and to a dismissive attitude to, and action taken against, Boschat. While this is strictly speaking outside the terms of reference of the PSNI Team, impressions remain and Lenny Harper should have been interviewed at least.

      The role of the Information Commissioner is also outside the terms of reference but clearly the Team could not resist criticising the Commissioner's disgraceful inaction in this case as outlined in the previous comment. I would contrast this inaction with the apparent attempted obstruction by the Commissioner of the work of the Inquiry when she emerged from her cave with all guns blazing.

      The PSNI Report cites a case (para 11.6.2) where an individual was able to access unredacted information via the Jersey Inquiry website which the SOJP were only prepared to supply him in redacted form. From the description in the report, the problem here seems to relate to both SOJP and the Inquiry.

      I note that the appendices are not included in the published report.

      Finally, SOJP seems to have been a bit of a shambles from way back and this should be borne in mind when the Inquiry report comes out.

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    2. Quite frankly, there should now be an independent investigation into the Office of the Information Commissioner in Jersey.

      This systemic failure to hold the police to account, coupled with the perverse decision to prosecute a blogger as a data controller, would, in any normal jurisdiction, put such an organisation under significant scrutiny.

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  34. Response to Gillian Gracia ,posting 13th June,
    In response to your excellent posting you might find the following of interest; In 2011 the Children Service brought over a U.K. expert on the subject of neglect, he was to advise the service and provide training. So, why did it not work?, the answer might be testimony and statement of Ms Jo Olsson to the COI who is a social work consultant and trouble shooter brought in by Julie Garbutt in 2015.Ms Olson states that she found that found in the core assessments were poor, child protection plans weak and that decisions had to be passed up from frontline staff to senior management, she also said that she had serious concerns regarding the safety of those decisions as the management team did not have the qualifications and experience that they should have, those managers have now been removed. MS Olsson gave evidence on the 17th Feb 2016 last witness of the day. Well worth a read.

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  35. Looking at all of this from England, where we have just had a very rare flame of hope lit by the evidently changing mood within young people displayed in the election, can I just say that your island really does seem like it is trapped in some 1930's era of curruption. You allow your best politicians to be forced out of office by a judicial system that even Hitler might have baulked at as too blatantly bent, and you, the public by and large just sit there and take it. Certainly I can't imagine the anti Poll Tax demonstrations/riots I took part in happening in Jersey. My core point I suppose is that until you can find a way to motivate the wider public your island is doomed to a dark age of its own collaboration. The brave few will continue to be picked off and the noose will grow ever tighter.

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  36. Thats why the COI results have been delayed! So that he could take his Knighthood before the s##t hits the fan!?

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  37. William Bailhache awarded a knighthood by "our" queen.

    There you go. Give up any hope anyone may have had for the Jersey child abuse public inquiry being anything other than a corrupt whitewash. Think about it. If there was any possibility of it doing what it obviously should do, condemn people like William Bailhache and Philip Bailhache and the rest of the gang, they'd never have risked the profound embarrassment of the honours system and her majesty by giving him a knighthood a few days before the report's publication.

    There you go.

    Defeat on platter. Those who said this COI, your Jersey 'public inquiry', was going to be a sick joke have been shown to be right. So, what next? Give up? Or have a plan b?

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  38. What a surprise Barking Bill Bailhache gets a knighthood.

    My question is why doesn't the Queen start dishing these out to out and out gangsters?

    Arise Sir Ron and Reggie...

    Makes one puke.

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  39. William Bailhache gets a Knighthood. For services to the Jersey Way?

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    1. Yes, despite Geidt getting a report and concerns about what was going on last year.

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  40. This is sickening news. All we can do is send a report flying in the direction of the honours people, or rather ferry it that way without reading it in public, the same report we have been using regarding the up and coming vote of no confidence and Philip Bailhache's possible promotion.
    Voice, would you be able to do a blog post or collate some info on William Bailhach's career and it's highlights, a bit like Bob did about Philip Bailhache? I know that's a tough challenge and out of your usual range, but we are a few bloggers short these days.

    Ferry Tortoise

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  41. You can contact the honours committee with your concerns. If we don't change words into actions it is going to be hard to change things. honours@cabinetoffice.gov.uk
    Are you with me?
    Will we stop making jokes about planes and ferries?
    Come on Jersey. Stand up.

    Torty McTortoiseface

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  42. Oh, bless http://www.ozouf.je/blog/statement-17th-june-2017/

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  43. If people were aware that Sean Dooley Power writes all the JAG posts then they would be careful what they wish for.

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  44. The Queen's Honours List for Jersey is 5 MBEs for good honourable people and 1 Knighthood for a person up there with Jimmy Savile. By the way, as a previous comment asked: Worth knowing those who nominated him, at this very vulnerable, moment in time?

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  45. There are too many people around him who could have nominated him. I guess asking the committee won't help?

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  46. I would like to say that I am sure someone will bring up this shocking endorsement of Bailhache by 'our Queen' in the States. But I doubt anyone will. Come back Corbyn Pitman. We need you more than ever.

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  47. We need Jeremy himself too. Gorst even manages to make Theresa May look competent.

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    1. Corbyn AND Pitman? Now that would be a real dream ticket for positive change in the Septic Isle. Can we have Syvret for External Relations Minister too?

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  48. When is this vote of no confidence in Chinochio taking place? I might actually tey and watch if only for the excuses.

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    1. The proposition is due to be debated tomorrow (Tues 20/6/17) around mid morning.

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    2. Thanks.

      PS

      As a non local how do I spot the new Sir Bailliff? Will he be dressed in fancy dress with a big gold bling bog chain around his neck?

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    3. He'll be the one interupting Deputy Higgins' difficult questions and saying that ministers can answer questions any way they like. Yup, even by not answering them at all. All you need to know my friend.

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  49. We have already had "Arise Sir Jimmy"

    Is it stretching credulity to imagine that these people are not 'procurers' for the 'great and the good'
    or 'entrapment enablers' in the shady world of power, espionage and big money?

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  50. What lies behind these Knighthood handouts no matter how appalling a Jersey Bailiff has proven (and they really couldn't come much worse than the Bailhaches and Michael Birt unless you are talking Coutnach during the war) is obviously just the Queen thanking the spivs who have helped hold on to her favourite 'Crown Peculier' tax haven for another few years. Does the Queen care about injustice, corruption and the ordinary public? Does she my arse.

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    1. And what, FFS,  is the point in having "subjects" if one cannot subjugate them???

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  51. Cristiano Ronaldo should have ensured his agent/lawyer put his money in Jersey. Would have had no problems then.

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  52. Probably find the lawyers he foolishly trusted are based here in the Jersey judicial cesspit.

    Stranger things have happened.

    If you are a Real Madrid fan better hope the poor boy plays golf at the club of Mr B and Mr K?

    Cleared in no time.

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  53. Your standard 100 comments. Good to see this blog continues to be so widely read. As we all know those who comment make up a tiny percentage of the numbers who just read the blog.

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  54. Looks like the Jersey Establishment's equally spinless dimwits in the UK Conservative party are doing the voters stupid enough to vote for Mad May (and sadly us too by default) proud. First meeting with the EU about Brexit and they have given in on every aspect so far. We need another UK election now and a Corbyn government that doesn't just serve the tax dodging elite.

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  55. http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2017/06/20/breaking-ozouf-dismissed-as-assistant-chief-minister/

    This is all fine and dandy but of little consequence if Ozouf is still working behind the scenes with Gorst in the sneaky kind of way that Jersey politics work. The vote of no confidence should proceed IMHO, I hope Taylor doesn't pull it now and that supporters of the proposition hold their ground.

    JRCbean

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  56. Take back the asylum from the lunatics20 June 2017 at 12:19

    What a shambles this latest news shows our States to be. We need an almost total clear out of these idiots if our children are to have any kind of chance of a prosperous future.

    It has been said before but I will add my voice to it. How we need the likes of Trevor Pitman back in the States.

    I used to think the former Deputy could be a little too in your face at times when he was in the Assembly. But my word I now believe his no bull approach and commitment to social justice is exactly what our sinking island needs.

    Like many I am wholly sick of this scape-goating of the public sector while pandering to the wealthy and big business. I am sick of all the fiascos.

    If any involved with this blog knows where Mr Pitam is please let him know he is needed and some of us would be very happy to help with a campaign to let him stand.

    As to Gorst and the farce of his alleged sacking of Ozouf two minutes after re-appointing his old chum, please go now. Perhaps there is even a boat leaving in the morning?

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    1. Keep in mind that although Gorst should go, his wife and children are Jersey, so banishing him to the Ecrehous or the hermitage may be more viable options.

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    2. Let him be King of the Ecrehous then. Just so long as he takes his safe pair of hands out of Jersey politics.

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    3. Apart from spoiling the Ecrehous for those of us who BBQ out there, I agree.

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  57. As anyone else seen that there is to be a legal challenge in the Supreme Court in Britain about the proposed deal for the DUP to prop up the Tories? Seems like the whole thing is illegal as it breaches the Good Friday agreement. With all of this going on it hardly seems likely, whatever Philip Bailhache may say, that the Channel Islands are going to be at the forefront of any Brexit agreement.

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  58. We can trade Bailhache in for a good deal.

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    1. But trade him for what? A melted butter mountain? Some old smoked haddock? Me thinks our best bet would be to threaten that he'll come and stand for Westminster unless they give us everything we want. Can you imagine the cross party horror at the thought of listening to three hour speeches of self agrandisment?

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    2. He might get put in his place there, because there are loads of him in Westminster and he is only dictator over 49 miles and 100,000 people. The Bailhaches's of Britain are bigger than him.

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  59. Education minister Rod Bryans has surely just made the very worst, crawly butt-lick speech of all time in support of Ian Gorst. Sounded to me like he was really worrying about his own job. A job he too has done worse than anyone before him. Bring the 2018 election forward to July!

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    1. Deputy Bryans can actually speak? Surely not?

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    2. It was an embarrassingly toe curling load of old codswallop. He likened the Chief Minister to Abraham Lincoln. That speech should go down in the anals of history as the biggest wipe ever spoken in a political forum.

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    3. Well, we all know what happened to Abe Lincoln... Perhaps better to accept the vote of no confidence?

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  60. Turned off when Gorst's wish to debate to the end won the vote by 30 to 14 this is the way the final vote will go turned off in disgust!

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  61. Rod Bryan's thinks a lot of his speech making abilities but unfortunately his ability to make his audience grimace far exceeds even his own estimation of himself.

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    1. Rod Bryans is and always will be a joke. The only one who takes him seriously is Bryans himself. The speech was utterly cringe-inducing.

      I'm afraid in Bryans we have a clown who thinks he is an intellectual. Perhaps more worrying for him is that it is widely known he has done nothing for the people of St. Helier No. 2.

      Roll on the election.

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  62. Motion lost. Only 13 in favour. More than proportionate footstamping by the rest as Gorst rested his case.

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    1. Interesting debate. I'm disappointed Ian Gorst threw Philip Ozouf to the wolves. He should have shown strong leadership and stood (or fell) by his reappointment of PO. I can't say I am disappointed with the result, as mentioned in the main posting, the alternative could have been a lot worse. (PB)

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    2. Some good speeches VFC, but likewise disappointed that Gorst took the decision he did in regard to Philip Ozouf in the manner and with the timing that he did. Clearly no loyalty in politics and for me a big black mark against Gorst.

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  63. There were some great speeches (for and against) today but there was also the utterly bizarre if not complete raving bonkers. Will look to put up the Rod Bryans video speech in the next couple of days which falls squarely into the latter category.

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  64. This result was always on the cards because the proposition was poor.
    No replacement CM, nobody who signed the petition said what Ministry they wanted and some of the speeches were ad-lib. Need to improve.

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    1. Sean Power outside with his JAG group didn't help, need to get away from him, he's poison.

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    2. 15 people attended after Dooley sent out FB and Twitter adverts all over the place for 2 weeks.
      What's in it for him then, must be planning a come back up St Brelade, God help us........

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    3. The worst bit is he will probably take Trappist monk Wiggy Truscott's seat. The man has done nothing since being elected.

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  65. Does anyone know who the gang of five are ... the ones that apparently forced Gorst to sack Ozouf in exchange for their support?

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  66. At a guess Mclaen and Farnam would be two.

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    1. From his speech I guess Luce is another

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  67. The Sean Power protest was the worst to date.
    Seen bigger bus queues.

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  68. Digger the rat21 June 2017 at 10:14

    Looks like Philip Ozouf may have even fewer supporters than Sean Power. Can't really count all those fake avatars on the JEP website echo chamber.

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  69. I listened in disbelief to that Deputy Bryans pantomine speech. You are right toe curlingly embarrassing. The man really must be deluded if he thinks this type of thing impresses people. Ought to try doing a bit of work for his constiuents instead. Please to see Ozouf gone though. Come 2018 I'll be risking a tenner on him losing his seat.

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  70. Morning. Any readers have any thoughts on who will be the new Chief Minister next year?

    Obvious Gorst will now survive until then. But like Theresa May he is a dead PM walking.

    Might seem straight forward but I see very few of those who might survive that election from the current crop going for MacLean, Ozouf, Green, Farnham or the odious Bailhache.

    Who does that leave us with I wonder?

    Hopefully not a returning Ben Shenton who the Rag are promoting with column inches like there is no tomorrow.

    Interesting times.

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  71. SHOOTING RATTY21 June 2017 at 10:46

    Possibly time to risk a punt on young Deputy Mezec? Some say he is not really that different from the establishment now anyway?

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  72. i would like to see a Chief Minister Bryans. The appalling speeches every fortnight with old UggersMuggers trying to impress people with his Chris Eubank style mangling of english would be hilarious.

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  73. We need some new blood in the States and lots of it. I would like to see the likes of Rico stand and vfc too.

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  74. Celebrate that you are not in immediate danger from King Bailhache, and we will see what more we can do by next year. And who knows? This crazy situation has gone on long enough.
    Tortoise

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  75. Good to see the Doctor is blogging again. It is a pity he's disinclined to stand for the States. Leave aside the deep green image for a minute. A successful background in software and research would trample Ozouf's chances of reviving his assistant minister job in 2018. Wickenden's chances too for a nice bonus. http://jerseytoday.blogspot.com/2017/06/it-is-all-about-who-you-know.html

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  76. *Stuart Syvret‏ @StuartSyvret · 17h

    I can't wait for the corrupt @JerseyInquiry to "report". Their paymasters think its 'The-End', when its the beginning of the next phase #CSA*

    Stuart can you please tell us what you intend to do, how much better it will be and what do you mean by the 'next phase'?



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    1. There have been a number of requests off the Ex Health Minister to reveal his plans before the CoI report is even published.

      A number of demands have been less polite, - derisory or mocking even.

      We are all intensely curious and even impatient to find out Mr Syvret's next steps.
      Even though this request is entirely polite (as far as we can tell), it probably should not be answered.

      Firstly the detail of the response should depend on how bad the glaring gaps are in the CoI report.

      Secondly The law offices and the forces of cover-up would like to be forewarned of the detail of the response and the campaign just as much (if not more) than us.

      Do you have any plans or thoughts that you would like to share with us, Anon @13:42 ???

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    2. If Stuart had stayed in the States he could be in the debate on July 6th roasting Bailhache alive. I supported Stuart on most things but his exit from the States he brought about by himself whatever injustices happened later. So on that score I can never feel the same sympathy as I do for the Pitmans being most corruptly being forced out by the Bailiff's bent court. Stuart could be in there on July 6th and he isn't down to his own foolishness over the London stunt.

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    3. That was 7 years ago and what right would Stuart have after snubbing the COI himself?
      It would blow back on him.

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  77. As regards Ozouf beinf voted out next year there needs to be a MASSIVE change in voters coming out as would imagine finance/digital workers would support him & with his expertise in getting his vote out don't count your chickens! PS I want him out

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  78. In today's States Sitting Senator Philip Bailhache attempted to have the in committee debate (scheduled for July 6th) to discuss the Care Inquiry report delayed. He was heavily voted down and the debate will go ahead as planned. Full credit to Chief Minister Ian Gorst. Imagine if it was "Chief Minister" Bailhache.

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    1. Do you mean in camera debate or whatever it is called. I.E. a secret debate that we the public cannot hear? if so this is disgraceful in itself.

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    2. "I think, Mr Sadd, I would have considered all the circumstances in the round. I can't -- I don't think I can say to you that I specifically identified the *alleged* [WTF] victims as a group of people to be considered"

      Where Sir Philip goes, child abuse follows. A catalogue of failures:

      Victoria College
      Roger Holland
      ......

      so much abuse and cover up has happened on his watch

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    3. Anon @21 June 2017 at 22:09:

      It is to be an "in committee" debate and not "in-camera."

      "In committee" basically means that members can speak as many times as they want/need during the debate. During proposition debates members can only talk once.

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  79. Response to anonymous at 17:54. That is the perception. Reality is he got in last election by 262 votes out of 10,000. He is vulnerable on a very small change.

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    1. Ozouf will be gone come 2018. Rubbed up too many people the wrong way with his arrogance. Tolerated while people were in the dark about how incompetent he was. But now? Soon be history and good rid I say.

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  80. Hi VFC - ref your comment at 18.13. One of the 'saving graces'of yesterdays events which were disturbing to witness is that Senator Gorst has always been supportive of the Inquiry, therefore if it is Jersey's 'reputation' that PB is afraid of I'm sorry, but it's reputation (if the report delivers as it should) will go well and truly down the pan. It would be interesting to know what PB is so worried about - he has tried to obstruct and delay the whole way through, It does beg the question why?

    I did not listen to the States today VFC. I watched and heard quite enough yesterday, but am intrigued as to what his arguements were for a delay in this special sitting?

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    1. Jill.

      He claimed that members would need time to digest the report before debating it. He wanted it delayed until (If memory serves) the 8th of July. It then became apparent (from Ian Gorst) that Senator Bailhache is due to be off Island on that date. So on the face of it Philip Bailhache wants the debate to happen when he is not there. Unless of course he forgot he is due to be off Island on that date.

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    2. Quiet all these stupid conspiracy theories.
      Its unhealthy, unhelpful and even farcical.
      They have had an Inquiry with hundreds of witnesses and statements yet you still try to pass dispersions on the whole thing. We are where we are and there will never be another show in town like it again.

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    3. Quit not quiet.
      People have to accept this COI.
      It is impossible for there to be another one and Stuart Syvret's claims of a better one are not even worth talking about.

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    4. Thanks VFC - I am going to watch this on the live stream shortly. Such a great shame that the 'mighty one' asks for more time (aka delaying tactics) for when he will not be showing his face in the assembly. He seems to forget quite a lot methinks, even when he was reading private documents on an aircraft being one of them! Us plebs will only be afforded the same amount of time and will pull out all the stops to read, digest and analyse the report. Numbers may be short whilst those of PB's status will no doubt have an army of legal people and others trying to pull it to pieces. So - in a word - tough Mr Bailhache.

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    5. @09:52 & 09:58 ,
      You appear to have missed your other English error: "They have had an Inquiry with hundreds of witnesses and statements yet you still try to pass dispersions on the whole thing"

      Do you mean "aspersions" not "dispersions"  perhaps.

      That these old chestnuts gets repeated yet again raises the concern that it is your 'moral illiteracy' that is a far greater problem.

      Did these "hundreds of witnesses" include Mike Pollard???
      *and a dozen or more other essential witnesses*

      If not then it surely is appropriate to question the CoI's competence and integrity
      Mike Pollard appears to be deeply involved in maintaining the cover up in 2007

      Here is the letter he wrote threatening HSSD staff into silence September 2007:
      http://freespeechoffshore.nl/stuartsyvretblog/child-abuse-in-jersey-1/

      2007 is not historic and that a £23,000,000 CoI is not conducted in a fit and proper manner indicates that the problem is far from cured.

      We paid for a CoI, not a "show in town" .....as you put it.
      We need to look to reclaim our money from Eversheds and whoever failed to appoint them on an effective and honest brief.

      You say that "People have to accept this COI"
      Why?
      And why is it so important to you?

      A real CoI need not have cost so much.
      This CoI is a further abuse heaped on the abused.
      It has lifted the edge of the carpet, that is all.

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    6. Instead of repeating the same angry posts about the COM why not tell us your Plan?

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  81. Just a note on Senator Farnham's recent performance. To be fair to the man, the politician, I have always tried to give him the benefit of the doubt even though it is banded about that the man is just a puppet.

    Two things are clear to me now, firstly he is a mindless puppet with little interest in the welfare or improving life quality for islanders, which he obviously does not converse with. The spin doctors in the Chief MInisters department actually do exist and probably wrote his lines in the below published article by the Baliwick Express it has spin labled all over it.

    In answer to a question by Deputy Tadier about waste charges.

    Senator Farnham replied: “Whilst we - all - accept the principle of this charge, and businesses do want to make their fair share of their contribution to the Treasury, I am concerned about the timing of the charge.”

    Who is " all " that except the principe of these extra charge's - why are we paying taxes and rates - Doh !

    Business would argue that they are taxed in profits, provide work and help the economy yet Farnham thinks that business feel that they are not paying their fair share so want ot be hit by further taxes - what a complete idiot.

    If the States stopped it's politicians and civil servants going on jollys around the world that would be a small start, but big saving - no chance.

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  82. If Gorst really does take the piss by bringing Ozouf back yet again now he has survived the no confidence vote I do hope some brave soul will promptly lodge another one.

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    1. No point.
      They need to suggest a sensible and willing replacement CM before lodging another one and nobody was tabled plus their attacks against the CM were weak. Had Gorst been ousted I would have put money on with Nev that Sir Philip Bailhache would have got the job.

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  83. Ozouf will stand for the post along with any other candidates and the states assembly will vote for their choice ... which will be ozouf

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  84. Will copies of the COI report be available from the States Greff bookshop?

    Reprots usually or even if you have to pay occassionally.

    If not can some brave member ask Gorst to rectify this please.

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  85. Anyone know who the three who voted for the delay to the COI results were. One surely would have been P Bailhache?

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    1. The other two were the Social Security Minister and the Constable of Grouville.

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    2. Susie Pinel. Nodding dog par excellence. About as much use as a chocolate teapot.

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  86. It was W Bailhache who proposed the delay and it was Murry Norton who seconded it, Norton weakly and quickly backed down when he found out Gorst was apposing it. A classic listen. Norton at his best!?

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  87. It was Philip Bailhache in fact that asked for the delay (surprise, surprise)and Murray Norton did indeed jump in, brown nosing, saying that as the proposition had not been seconded he would do so, but when he realised that some members would be in London on business that day, he would not vote for the delay. So my Constable and SS Pinel voted 'pour'. That does not surprise me I have to say.

    I believe Senator Gorst at a previous States sitting indicated that the he would do his utmost to see if the report could be made available in hard copy format as soon as possible after it's release. Makes for easier reading and a small price to pay if indeed there is a charge.

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  88. Will have a new Blog Posting up tomorrow on the subject of Philip Bailhache's proposition to delay the in-committee debate.

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    1. 'Blog posting? About my proposal to have the debate delayed?

      I'm very sorry I do not recall any such thing.

      It must have been some other former Attorney General and Bailiff.

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  89. Shooting Digger Rat22 June 2017 at 20:55

    I feel sorry for Senator Ozouf. What will he do if he loses his seat because of this latest shambles? Who would employ him?

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    1. Think you'll find he has a lot of people working for him, building lots of houses.

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