Following the success of Chief Minister Ian Gorst's proposition P.20/2015 where he was able to persuade the House to approve extra funding for the ongoing Jersey Child Abuse Inquiry, and we were able to report, in an exclusive, in-depth INTERVIEW with the Chief Minister, a positive message for the island in that our parliament has done the right thing. Although not all were in favour of the proposition, to include former Bailiff , and now Senator Philip Bailhache, who, by his own admission, was conflicted but still SPOKE AGAINST THE PROPOSITION regardless.
Deputy Montfort Tadier, as regular readers will be aware, has been a staunch supporter, and campaigner for the Victims/Survivors of abuse and was instrumental in formulating the Inquiry's Terms of Reference. The Deputy, in his speech below, not only kicked Senator Bailhache's speech into touch but along with Chief Minister Gorst, and all those who voted/spoke in favour of the proposition, helped put Jersey on the map for the right reasons.
Respect to Deputy Montford Tadier, Brilliant speech who said it as it was and as it is. A very worthy matter to enter the world of Jersey politics on and I did not know that was the reason he wished to be elected. No wonder he is elected he is a proper people's representative. Here is a wish for you to have a long and fruitful career in politics
ReplyDeleteDeputy Tadier is a decent and honest man who has the respect and gratitude of all the survivors, thank you Deputy Montford Tadier
ReplyDeleteThe best speech Deputy Tadier has given in the States.
ReplyDeleteI can only but agree with the three comments above 110%. A defining moment for Monty I think, and may he now go from strength to strength.
DeleteA decent and honest man who has my utmost respect.
Bravo, Deputy and thank you for this posting
DeleteCracking speech. Bravo Zulu Monty.
DeleteThe Beano is not the Rag
In a brawl, if you want to win, then you must always go for the biggest and nastiest, this is exactly what Deputy Montford Tadier did, scaring the hell out of the Philip Bailhache supporters who ran for cover and took their vote to the other side. Terrific speech from Montford from the heart and making excellent sense pointing out a lot that is wrong with the old Jersey way.
ReplyDeleteListen for when the speaker, and Sentor Bailache try and take control and wrong foot the young deputy, Deputy Tadier takes the knocks but refuses to back down and then goes on to tell the assembly about the Roger Holland affair, who said politics was boring.
Well done to the other States members who spoke well and voted in favour.
absolutely brilliant. Definitely one of the best speeches Ive heard from the states chamber.
ReplyDeleteYknow I really like this guy - he calls it as it is - he isn't scared to step up and be counted and I believe in him. I can see a great career ahead of this chap.
Looking back over the Jersey child abuse debate over the last five years or so it is interesting how the ground has gradually shifted. Five years ago the very existence of large scale child abuse was disputed. Now it is generally accepted that abuse took place on a significant scale. Victims have come forward, compensation has been paid and apologies made.
ReplyDeleteThe debate has at last began to focus on the interesting question of who knew what and when and why nothing was done at the time. The questions this poses are rightly seen as a threat by a number of establishment figures who may or may not have something to hide. Time, and the Committee of Inquiry, may take us further forward on these issues. Also significant is the changed and much diminished influence of the former Bailiff and now Senator, Philip Bailhache. Five or more years ago he was a prestigious and senior figure to whom most others deferred. His word was law, sometimes literally given his role as the Islands senior judge. Now he appears to be increasingly marginalised. A position compounded by his recent decision to appoint himself as "Devils Advocate" defending the interests of child abusers and those who covered up abuse during his failed attempt to bring an end to the Committee of Inquiry. What he said and did during the recent debate are now matters of record and may well come back to haunt him, and what remains of his reputation, as the Inquiry continues its work and more of the facts come to light.
We are all living in interesting times but they may become even more interesting for Senator Bailhache as his own role in the history of the failures to confront abuse comes under scrutiny. I suspect that he is not the only member of the old guard for who the clock is ticking.
I'm given to understand the numerous strands of the different lawless acts taken by the Jersey authorities against the former Senator Stuart Syvret (acts, interestingly, which are viewed to include the unlawful suspension of the Police Chief in 2008) are being knitted together, and a clear picture of a course of conduct emerges. I'm told there are unavoidable constitutional ramifications, and not merely for Jersey.
DeleteI'm given to understand the ab initio conflicted and improperly motivated involvement of the former Bailiff Philip Bailhache and the present Bailiff, his brother William Bailhache, cannot be disguised, and will not be defended by the relevant authorities, when the time arrives. So yes, 'the clock is ticking'.
My source informs me that the view of the powers is one of exasperation & recognition that both men are personally defective individuals who have caused untold and incalculable damage to the system.
There are no apparent means remaining for either of the Bailhaches to salvage anything from the shipwreck they have caused. Perhaps not even their liberty.
I was going to say "Deputy Montfort Tadier's finest hour" but to be quite honest, he's had quite a few, it's getting hard to pick.
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ReplyDeleteThank you for making this brilliantly strategic speech available on your blog. The Bailhache contingent could not maneuver around Deputy Tadier's carefully chosen and powerful wording to silence him. It was Phil Bailhache's own campaign to end the COI that backfired, making it impossible for TPTB to get away with outright censorship of the Deputy's speech, because the inarguable relevance was caused by the feudalist oligarch's own blatant interference every step of the way.
One can only imagine the old guard's teeth gnashing and their dwindling hope that someone, could find any possible excuse to stop this speech by Deputy Tadier, but knowing that feudalistic censorship would have been blatant and indefensible.
Well done, Deputy Tadier. Well done, indeed.
Elle
Well, I think it's funny- you know- like when Bailhache looks around the room for support and doesn't get any, ha ha! The only murmur of support was from that Farnham bloke saying "and the Farnham Brothers." Why was Farnham a lone voice on that occasion? Why when Zoe Cameron was shaking her head weren't there others doing it too with heckling and booing in the back ground ??
ReplyDeleteWhen the hubris ways of the states are in acute focus, they stop doing it because it belongs to the 19th century. Members are waking up to the fact that actually it's wrong to shout the other side down in this way when the speaker is simply presenting facts- like Stuart did on that Christmas speech when Bailhache as Bailiff shut the microphone down because he didn't like hearing the truth. These sorts of behaviours and gestures make me cringe (along with the regal decor and stupid outfits.) The whole lot is designed to intimidate us and protect the status quo.
Well that won't wash anymore. Philip can drop the presumption that his grandson will be following in his footsteps, wearing his cloak and parading around Jersey like a stuffed parrot. One wonders if Phil can possibly imagine a republican UK.
And don't forget the stamping. Must give the sound engineer a headache now that they are on air :)
Delete"We need to learn what went wrong. Those of us in society who have not been abused, but who have an interest in decent and good governance in Jersey need to have the answers."
ReplyDeleteIndeed this is a valid point and something that those setting the agenda have consistently over looked in their arrogance. More fool them.
My husband has no interest in the COI and jumped on the bandwagon of the 50 million cost to tax payers saying its a waste of time what will it achieve as most of the abusers are dead
ReplyDeleteLast night I insisted he listen to the above speech. I strongly gave him my point of view and basically sat on him until the audio finished.
Ah now he understand why the 50 million is big news and why the child abuse inquiry has to continue.
Have just listened to Montford Tadier's speech which was interesting and diverse. This is a man who even though he had a prepared speech with notes obviously can think on his feet when interrupted and dissuaded in the direction his speech was heading.
ReplyDeleteIndeed he was warned about not breaking standing orders of the assembly which says a member must not malign another member. His response was so clever he turned the tables completely on the person warning him to his advantage. So cool, so analytical and Montford was so confident that when he continued he named the Roger Holland affair and the part AG Philip Bailahache played ( a matter of public record ) and was not interrupted again, even though the chamber he points out was uncomfortable with his dialogue.
A clever, brave and persuasive speech underlying all that is good about Montford Tadier and his beliefs, well worth taking the time to listen to, as Philip Baihache and his disciples had to on the day sitting in the same room.
Boatyboy.