On 28 May we published THIS BLOG warning readers of the latest tool being used by the former Attorney General (Tim Le Cocq) and the government to silence political dissent, and those of us exposing the Jersey Child Abuse cover-up among much more alleged corruption perpetrated by powerful people who enjoy complete impunity on the island.
It came in the form of a proposition (P.19/2016) brought by the Chief Minister but presented by Senator Philip Ozouf. Who had this to say concerning the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris; "all communities from around the world needed to stand in solidarity with our French cousins to condemn what as an unacceptable infringement on the ability for freedom of expression and speech." Of course offending Muslims is one thing but "offending" people in Jersey is a lot more serious than that!
As we correctly predicted the proposition was adopted in the region of forty votes in favour - five against. The votes can be viewed HERE, HERE and HERE.
Deputy Russell Labey.
During the debate, where those who are in favour of free speech clearly won the argument, but lost the vote, some very poignant and informative speeches were made against the proposition, not least by St Helier (District NO.1) Deputy Russell Labey. (video below)
The Deputy warned of possible "sinister consequences to free speech" "Sleepwalking into dodgy legislation." He pointed out that it is legislation that people might expect to find in "totalitarian states like North Korea."
He went on to explain how Bloggers gained the trust and confidence of whistle-blowers who leaked public interest documents to us. The Mainstream media (MSM) were not trusted and were believed to have "gone native" with the Jersey establishment. The Deputy mentions, in his speech below, the leaking to Bloggers of the BARTON REPORT.
The Barton Report was a disciplinary investigation against the three cops accused of illegally bugging a car used by member(s) of the Curtis Warren gang. The investigation was instigated by the Law Officers Department (LOD).
It was leaked to Bloggers because it was believed the MSM would bury it which demonstrates the trust and confidence that Bloggers have gained from whistle blowers.
The Barton Report shows that it is the Law Officers themselves who have questions to answer, and despite instigating the investigation, the Law Officers did/would not fully co-operate with it.
The link also contains further links that are of huge public interest, including, "Operation Invicta" which is the criminal Investigation against the cops. Again the cops were exonerated but left question marks over the LOD.
In the meantime, credit to Deputy Labey, and others, for seeing what this latest piece of legislation is, and for having the courage to speak up about it. Speaking up/out, as a result of this legislation will soon be a thing of the past in Jersey.
Your header graphic:
ReplyDelete"When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are ruled by criminals."
Health minister Syvret exposed a crime
a shedload actually!
Very true and not just Stuart either: Graham Power, Lenny Harper, Trevor Pitman, Bob Hill and Mike Higgins too. And guess what - Higgins is the only one still in a job! Say no more. The Jersey Way. But well done Russell Labey. Think you have been useless since elected. Quiet as a mouse. But credit where it is due. Good speech. Keep it up.
DeleteI wouldn't be too hard on Labey as a St Helier Deputy he has some rather big shoes to fill, work wise and when it comes to speech making.
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"Third, the idea has spread that people and groups have a right not to be offended. This may sound innocuous. Politeness is a virtue, after all. But if I have a right not to be offended, that means someone must police what you say about me, or about the things I hold dear, such as my ethnic group, religion, or even political beliefs. Since offence is subjective, the power to police it is both vast and arbitrary."
A bit of an irony here.
ReplyDelete"...presented by Senator Philip Ozouf. Who had this to say concerning the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris; "all communities from around the world needed to stand in solidarity with our French cousins to condemn what as an unacceptable infringement on the ability for freedom of expression and speech." Of course offending Muslims is one thing but "offending" people in Jersey is a lot more serious than that!"
A reasonable person could judge that the publications of Charlie Hebdo could cause offence
The Charlie Hebdo staff could therefore be fined and imprisoned under P.19/2016
Journalism and satire are dead!
In theory you may have a point but in Jersey we have a justice system which is the envy of the entire third world.
DeleteWe can trust the independent police, the law officers, the courts and the vic college educated Jurats to decide which potential causes of offence to prosecute and which individuals and sections of the community don't matter.
According to the Economist Jersey is leading the world with this legislation:
www.economist.com/news/leaders/21699909-curbs-free-speech-are-growing-tighter-it-time-speak-out-under-attack
"....... the power to police it is both vast and arbitrary."
The only oversight in the legislation is that it does not trap blogs which are based offshore:
http://freespeechoffshore.nl/stuartsyvretblog/the-publics-inquiry-into-the-public-inquiry-starts-here/
(4) A person who, for the purpose of causing annoyance,
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(a) sends, by means of a telecommunication system, a message
that the person knows to be false; or
(b) persistently makes use of a telecommunication system,
is guilty of an offence
Surely the ease with which ' annoyance' can be achieved , should worry anyone but the silent!
The proposition/legislation is designed to worry anyone but the silent.
DeleteIt wouldn't be hard for anyone to use this law to demonstrate justifiable annoyance at the months of abuse the JEP has condoned or colluded with in publishing deranged trolling on the part of the death threat troll itself. The newspaper being the Establishment mouthpeice will never be prosecuted for allowing this because of who the targets were. Conclusion - why should the blogs who are far more professional worry? Just keep calm and carry on.
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This was a good speech. Labey also does have very big shoes to fill so we shouldn't be too hard on him. Really he is having to try and replace Trevor Pitman.
ReplyDeleteNot a very easy task as TP was great for us here (I live near the bathing pool) in number 1 district. He was also brilliant in taking controversial issues up in the States. You can't master all of that overnight.
As somebody says give credit where it is deserved. Most States Members struggle to speak at all let alone make a very good one like Deputy Labey.
Russell Labey deserves loads of credit for highlighting the truth behind this dishonest politically motivated law.
ReplyDeleteHow sad to read in the JEP that the Youth Service has now been forced to become a charity.
ReplyDeleteThis service provides essential and high quality education and should be statutory. Minister Rod Bryans should be ashamed and sacked for letting this happen. Whichever comes first doesn't matter.
Absolutely useless politician. Come the election he needs to be sent back to his insurance job before he does any more damage.
Hi VFC
ReplyDeleteA question for you. Off topic, but on my mind. Have the SOJP ever given an explanation as to how Graham Power's copy of his contract - the one guaranteeing him legal representation - was 'disappeared' from the locked cabinet in his office? Or an explanation as to how States HR 'lost' their copy, even though they own and operate multiple document management systems, with multiple backups?
As a follow up question to this:
DeleteHow is it possible for the States of Jersey HR department to eventually (after legal challenge) locate in their document management systems(s) the metadata concerning the creation of the documents used to suspend Graham Power in 2008....yet they cannot locate a copy of his contract which was more than likely stored in the very same document management system(s) ?
If I were Mr Power, I would be asking for the metadata relating to the authoring of his contract. Those backups tapes don't lie you know, there will be something there, somewhere.
I don't get how this new law and the whole 'annoyance' thing and 'offence' can or will work.
ReplyDeleteI am really 'annoyed' and 'offended' about the garbage being written that Brexit will be good for us. But so what. It is just different opinions.
This is different to blatant abuse being written. So as long as you just write arguable truth there should be no problem.
"So as long as you just write arguable truth there should be no problem."
Deleteindeed. But this is Jersey!
The land where Health minster Syvret wrote arguable truths and he was imprisoned because these "truths" cam under the new law offices definition of someones "Data"
That is now a legal precedent!
Now writing upsetting truths will also be against Jersey Shyster Law.
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ReplyDeleteBryans couldn't get a job in insurance why do you think he wanted a "job" in the states
Well he certainly did used to work for Hepburn's if memory serves, though in his pitch for ESC he banged on about being an art teacher in the late 1970s.
DeleteWhether anyone would take him back now in view of his disastrous handling of ESC you may well be right. As for his performance as a Saint Helier Deputy, that is even worse. Phoning him with your problems a complete waste of time.
If this Council of Ministers was a football team they would be England. Rubbish.
ReplyDeleteAt least England manager Roy Houghton held up his hands and resigned for being a failure. If Gorst had similar amounts of dignity and TF.
DeleteFor those interested, Jacques Chartier's funeral takes place next Tuesday at the crematorium.
ReplyDeleteI see the man who wanted to be king Philip 'I can't remember' Bailhache is now trying to play the independence card. Doesn't this OAP's lust for power ever dim?
ReplyDeleteNo. He will probably still be defending the Indefensible even as they try to screw down the lid.
DeleteIn 2010 the former (illegally?) suspended Police Chief, Graham Power QPM, in his interim defence case to the discredited Wiltshire allegations, (buried by STATE MEDIA) wrote:
Delete"Such views are not confined to the older elements of the honorary service. They can be found, albeit in a more developed form, in the senior levels of government and the legal establishment where some notable figures favour an eventual severance of links with the U.K. and would see the ready acceptance of U.K. working practices as running counter to this agenda. I recall that in 2007 I assisted a small working group which included, among others, the Bailiff Sir Philip Bailhache and the Attorney General William Bailhache. The purpose of the group was to prepare a draft contingency plan for complete independence. I submitted papers to the group on the implications for law enforcement, and used some contacts from my previous role to offer suggestions as to who outside of the island, could assist in developing such a plan. I provided contact details of key figures in the Scottish Government and Administration including the Scottish National Party. I recall that some of the advice and contacts I provided were in an email I sent, probably in July 2007. This and other experiences reinforced my understanding that there was a tide flowing against closer association with the U.K, and a strong local agenda to develop working models and solutions within the island."
What the former (illegally?) suspended Chief Officer has written suggests that the Bailhache Brothers were seeking independence from the UK since 2007. Not only that but is/was it their place to be looking for independence from the UK when they are/were both Crown Officers and part of the judiciary not politicians? It gives one an insight into who really runs this island.
This is just a SNAPSHOT of alleged judicial corruption in Jersey and that's while there IS UK political oversight. Imagine what it would be like without it..............
ReplyDeleteBrilliant stuff. What a corrupt cesspit we live in. Every story a gem of what is wrong with those who Lord it over us and the media lickspittals who enable it all. The Pitmans blog should be studied at universities across the free world. Jersey - 70 years and still not free.
DeleteCan you tell us whether you sent all of this shocking and absolutely damning material to the COI as part of your submission? If you haven't you should even at this late date.
DeleteCompare and contrast the two different approaches to seeking to reassure the public in the fall out from Brexit:-
ReplyDeleteGuernsey:- Clear and decisive effort to lay down some goals and present a first outline of a strategy for dealing with this.
http://www.itv.com/news/channel/update/2016-06-29/guernsey-could-vote-on-brexit-plan-today/
Jersey:- Divisive and self indulgent loose cannon approach given tacit approval by the MSM, and an attempt maybe to start planting the seeds of a half baked plan in the minds of the public.
http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/06/28/brexit-jersey-has-option-to-sever-ties-with-the-uk/
http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/06/28/is-it-time-to-consider-the-insurance-policy/
And lets not forget to mention:-
http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/06/28/bailiffs-dual-role-defended/
Time to wake up every one and start playing hard ball. They are plotting to sell us all down the river again!
How annoying that Monty Tadier felt the need to delay his dusl role proposition. When oh when are the States finally going to get to grips with this anachronism? Time after time it is voted down, delayed or somehow hoofed into the long grass.
ReplyDeleteOur Government are in control by mafia of corporate interest - and every states member knows it. Some of these members are actually part of it - so there is where the problem lies.
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Why has the transcript of day146 disappeared from the care inquiry website?
ReplyDeleteIt could be that somebody found it "offensive!" Other than that (P.19/2016) I don't know.
DeleteWho/what was that transcript related to?
DeleteThis is disturbing. Can our corrupt LOD interfere even at this late date?
Delete"Who/what was the transcript related to?"
DeleteI believe they related (thanks to Polo) THESE and others.
My money is on the submission from Alan Collins, counsel for the JCLA, he challenges evidence and subjective opinions given in the other submissions and it would be fair to say several people might be "offended" by his very cogent arguments.
ReplyDeleteTomorrow see's the unveiling of the granite arch at the weighbridge, it is to be unveiled by the Bailiff (MR) William Bailhache now why is that NOT a SIR prize.
ReplyDeleteAre we quite certain that there are no victims of Royal Court corruption buried under the granite arch?
ReplyDeleteNo doubt the thunder-faced old trout will get his obligatory gong for being a loyal little Establishment poodle when alleged pig fancier 'Call me Dave' Camoflage steps down having destroyed Britain in September?
DeleteI have been away and have only now seen the comment on the "taking down" of the documentation for day 146 of the Inquiry.
ReplyDeleteI have checked my own directory and see that I did download the original documentation for that day. In fact it was badly labeled and I had to change the file name when I was saving it to either prevent it over-writing another file or to prevent it being subsequently over-written. You can see this clearly by checking out the underlying links in the originals I provided earlier where the day is not specified in the title of the file as is otherwise usually the case.
So there may be nothing sinister in the document disappearing, just more incompetence on the part of the Inquiry.
In any event, I have now put the original document up on my own site and the links below should work.
JCLA Final Submission 16/3/2016
JCLA Response to Submissions 29/3/2016
Andrew Lewis Closing Submission 18/3/2016
Andrew Lewis Response to Responses to Submissions 8/4/2016
For those wishing to attend Jacques funeral will be at 10.45 am Tuesday.
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