Below is a Press statement issued by the States of Jersey police this morning.
"At 10:40 today police received a call from a worker at Handois Reservoir, St Lawrence who reported finding the remains of a body partly submerged in the water.
Given the proximity to the last known location of missing Islander Adrian Lynch, Adrian’s family have been updated as to the find but any formal identification is likely to take some time.
Police officers and Crime Scene Investigation are currently at the reservoir and we would request that persons do not attend at that location in order to enable the police to carry out their investigations.
We understand the public interest that this incident will create, but we would ask that islanders respect this request and the family’s privacy at this time.
Further information will be provided as it becomes available."(END)
Given the proximity to the last known location of missing Islander Adrian Lynch, Adrian’s family have been updated as to the find but any formal identification is likely to take some time.
Police officers and Crime Scene Investigation are currently at the reservoir and we would request that persons do not attend at that location in order to enable the police to carry out their investigations.
We understand the public interest that this incident will create, but we would ask that islanders respect this request and the family’s privacy at this time.
Further information will be provided as it becomes available."(END)
Our thoughts are with the Lynch family and friends.
For related Blogs published by Team Voice on the disappearance/police investigation of Adrian Lynch please click on the labels at the bottom of the posting. Alternatively please click on the links below.
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY 5.
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY 7/8
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY/13/14
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY 31/32
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY 35/36
Adrian Lynch THE OFFICIAL LINE QUESTIONED.
Adrian Lynch Investigation. QUESTIONS TO THE STATES OF JERSEY POLICE.
Adrian Lynch UPDATE.
Adrian Lynch SATES OF JERSEY POLICE PRESS RELEASE
Video of Adrian Lynch's Last Reported KNOWN MOVEMENTS.
Adrian Lynch. North Coast SEARCH.
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY 5.
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY 7/8
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY/13/14
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY 31/32
Adrian Lynch still missing. DAY 35/36
Adrian Lynch THE OFFICIAL LINE QUESTIONED.
Adrian Lynch Investigation. QUESTIONS TO THE STATES OF JERSEY POLICE.
Adrian Lynch UPDATE.
Adrian Lynch SATES OF JERSEY POLICE PRESS RELEASE
Video of Adrian Lynch's Last Reported KNOWN MOVEMENTS.
Adrian Lynch. North Coast SEARCH.
Adrian Lynch Operation Panama CASE CLOSED?
Sad news. Can you tell those of us unfamiliar with the area where exactly this piece of water is; also was it allegedly searched by police divers prior to this body appearing today? Thank you.
ReplyDeleteFrom SOJP Press Release.
Delete"There are a number of water sites in the general area ranging from garden ponds to the Handois and Dannemarche reservoirs. A number of these aspects could be and were covered by trained Fire and Rescue officers and divers from TTS. Other more challenging aspects were reviewed and where applicable covered by sonar specialists from Humberside Police."
More HERE.
Hopefully this very sad news will now prove to be the consequence of a very unfortunate accident. However, one really does have to ask the following question.
ReplyDeleteIf this water had been searched by professionals (Handois isn't large)is it remotely possible that a body could have been deposited in the water AFTER a search had taken place? Hopefully the police and forensics will be asking this same question.
What if the body wasn't deposited AFTER the police had searched? The police will then have to be answering the questions not asking them. How could they not have found the body in such a small area of water? These are questions which will need answering at a later date because for now our thoughts and prayers should be with Adrian's family.
DeleteIf one loosk at this (below) paragraph from their (SOJP) previous Press Release (above link), it basically says that the SOJP DIDN'T search Handois themselves, it was left to Fire and Rescue, Humberside cops, and TTS.
ReplyDelete"There are a number of water sites in the general area ranging from garden ponds to the Handois and Dannemarche reservoirs. A number of these aspects could be and were covered by trained Fire and Rescue officers and divers from TTS. Other more challenging aspects were reviewed and where applicable covered by sonar specialists from Humberside Police."
So the obvious question is AGAIN "if (as SOJP have been saying all through this) the areas have been "thoroughly" and "extensively" searched how did they miss the body?" They can't have it both ways, if it (Handois) was "extensively" and "thoroughly" searched in the first place they would have found him. This (discovery today) suggests there was NOT a thorough and extensive search.
Of course there is always, the very possible scenario, that the body was dumped there post-search. Questions will need to be asked/answred along those lines.
Indeed.
DeleteBe very careful with the inquest, and the post mortem. There will be a post mortem I assume?
How accessible is this site considering the person was allegadly drunk, confused or both?
ReplyDeleteAre there any security cameras up at the site? Have these been checked? If staff are there every day how come the body only just discovered? Why did the police not use their own divers to search the water? Just a few questions that need answering.
ReplyDeleteObviously the body will be checked to see if any injuries were there that could not be explained by drowning? Injuries such as might be caused by being hit by a car?
ReplyDeleteIf the police say visibility was very bad in the water then why did they not go back with better lighting equipment? After all they were not restricted by any budget limit according to Mr Gull.
ReplyDeleteHardly a professional search by the look of it? If this was Power and Harper they would be slaughtered.
So, so sad for Adrian's family (if indeed it is Adrian), and I can only imagine what they must be going through at this moment in time. Indeed, they have had to wait a long time for answers, and it would appear from the above SoJP statements and comments that there are still more questions than answers in this sorry case.
ReplyDeleteThis is a tragedy - and a disgrace.
ReplyDeleteMy earnest thoughts are with Adrian's family - fine and decent people I've had the privilege of meeting and speaking with.
We cannot say yet what happened to Adrian - this fine young man who had a promising and happy life in front of him. Obviously, there are a number of possibilities which I won't speculate on now.
What I will say is this; no matter which of those possible explanations proves to be correct - none of them - none at all - are favorable to the leadership of the States of Jersey Police Force.
This tragedy has been a disgusting failure in leadership and investigative competencies of the most basic kind - from the very outset. That view is widely held - and has been widely held from the first weeks of Adrian's disappearance - throughout the whole community.
Mike Bowron is finished. He must tend his resignation without prevarication.
Stuart Syvret
I agree with you Stuart 100%. Where oh where has Bowron been? Graham Power was villified at the CoI for his lack of visible presence during Operation Rectangle, but we have seen/heard even less from our Police Chief since his inception in post. Double standards spring to mind as do 'one rule for one and one for another'.
DeleteSomething stinks about all this, but of course it does not affect Jersey's reputation' so lets just baffle people with bull poo eh?
I have always understood that if a dead body sinks in water, depending the temperature of the water and providing the body is not weighted in any way it should surface within two to three weeks, if this be the case this could raise interesting questions, does anyone have any thoughts on this?
ReplyDeleteMy guess is still that Adrian was skittled whilst walking home by some drunken rich tosser who had this all covered up. Hell, look at the lengths they went to too cover up the Dita Paverniece case!!!
ReplyDeleteCould be right there.
DeleteBowron's police leadership have form when it comes to the non-prosecution of drivers who mow down 'anti-Establishment' figures as this blog has reported in the past.
All the more reason why the body of this poor victim must be checked for injuries not consistent with drowning.
Enjoy Tenerife big fellah.
Such a sad story. Condolences to all involved. Hopefully this will finally begin to bring some closure whichever way things now unfold. I hope you will excuse me but not knowing how blogs work I was not sure if I needed to post any comment on the latest story on the site or could go back to a past one. If inappropriate please just ignore. Following political debate about the forthcoming by-election I had wanted to share my predictions on how the result will pan out.
ReplyDelete1: Sarah Ferguson
2: John Young
3: Deputy Sam Mezec
4: Christian May
5: Mary O'Keefe-Burgher
6: Mike Dun
7: Guy de Faye
8: Stevie Ocean
Two observations.
ReplyDeleteFirstly I would want to see whatever the pathology comes back as independently checked and verified for the reasons people touch on above.
Secondly, and off main story, do you really think ex TTS Minister Guy De Faye will come so high? I would place him behind Stevie Ocean.
Hi above. You can always leave comments on an older posting. Lets keep this thread on Adrian. The circus will come to town in September.
ReplyDeleteCondolences and thoughts go out to all the family and friends of Adrian.
It was always going to be a member of the public that found him seeing as the police gave up looking for him last year. Thoughts also go out to the people who found him. That is a position non of us would want to find ourselves in.
8 months submerged in 4meters of water.
Questions, questions and questions.
We should also be searching for Mike Bowron. He has also vanished these past 8 months.
Such a tragedy. I hope there is a public inquiry. Strange that he was found 8 months to the day in an area of water that does not, I assume, have currents and tides and also there is well preserved passport that has been in water for 8 months. And no evidence of disturbed mud/foliage or skid marks when it was originally searched in reasonable weather and no scent to follow by search or cadaver dogs. So very sorry for all concerned. Condolences to family and friends. RIP Adrian.
DeleteReference Bowron. You might say he has always been out of his depth. This tragedy has only confirmed what many of us thought about the COM lapdog all along. Resign Mr B. In comparison with Graham Power you are an embarrassment.
DeleteSad in a way to see the outpouring of sympathy on a certain group whoso many couldn't be bothered about sharing posts of his disappearance.
DeleteShameful
No mention of his house keys? Would they have been in his trouser pocets
Deletelast known picture of this man he was in a white shirt no jacket?????
ReplyDeleteNot correct. He was wearing his jacket when captured on CCTV at Regal and Thistle Grove.
ReplyDeleteThe sonar picked up fish swimming and an old tyre when sweeping a very small and shallow reservoir which handois is. 4mtrs at its deepest point is not deep. How did they miss a 6ft man?
ReplyDeleteok
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a teenager we used to play around this place and the catchment pond to the North, I have said to many folk that after seeing the video of Adrian walking past thistle grove that the reservoir would be the obvious place as the land search had produced nothing. The lane to the north of thistle grove leads to the northern end of the reservoir but if Adrian had taken a left turn into the fields to the south and on the western side of the water he would have been in a very dangerous situation as the side is very steep and in the dark he could have walked straight over the edge. All that said I would ask this very simple question? Why was the reservoir not completely drained? after all it is not exactly the pacific ocean but a very small catchment at the head of waterworks valley. My thoughts are now with Adrian's family and even though this very sad news is not what they would have wished for it does bring some solace and closure. There are however some very serious questions about the way this whole matter has been dealt with.
ReplyDeleteCould Adrian swim?
ReplyDeleteRico, it matters not whether Adrian could swim, he was homeward bound and didn't suddenly find the urge to go off track for a midnight dip in my opinion. As for earlier comments, it matters not who does any autopsy in Jersey, the findings will be what the Jersey Satanists want them to be, they control everything on an island without the slightest need for accountability!!! Jersey "IS" the "ONLY" place in the world granted the status of "A PECULIAR POSSESSION". Once you actually understand what that means, as Leah McGrath Goodman does, then there will be no more mysteries in Jersey, will there Leah? Look to the Bible for your "PECULIAR POSSESSION" for the scum in the UK, and the debauched filth in Jersey are hiding behind the word of "GOD" whilst worshiping Lucifer. Check out duckduckgo.com instead of googles bullshit, and your search results will start yielding some honest and honourable answers instead of the government dross that you sheep are normally fed....
DeleteSome of these posts demonstrate a certain naivety. Unfortunately people go missing all the time. It does not happen very often in Jersey simply because Jersey is a (comparatively) small island nation with a population of 100k or so, less than a large town in the UK. I am aware of cases in the UK and Ireland where bodies were discovered after years or even decades.
ReplyDeleteSome of you wanted the police to search the entire island and yet it seems that Adrian's body was found close to where he was last seen, so it seems they were correct to concentrate their search in that area, even though, unfortunately, their searches didn't find him. But now he was been found and hopefully there will be closure for the family.
We will await have to await the results of the post mortem. Personally, I'd be surprised if they show anything indicating an unlawful death, but who knows. The eagerness of some to use this tragedy as a cosh with wish to beat the Jersey Police to is a mite troubling, frankly.
@00:49
DeleteAnd the lack of confidence in Jersey's politicised police and legal system is whose fault?????
'beat the Jersey police'? Likely because under Bowron they have become the same sort of embarrassment that harks back to the 1960s and 1970s when they were happily doing nothing about complaints about Haut de la Garenne. They are selective in their pursuit of criminals, cowardly under the thumb of Jersey's bent prosecution service and ever happy to turn a blind eye to wrong-doing if perpetrated against one of the Jersey establishment's perceived enemies. In this case they were so incompetent that they could not find the poor victim in what even they concluded was the most likely area. Thanks to Jersey's lickspittle media they also escape the relentless attacks which were unjustifiably aimed at Power and Harper.Frankly. 'beating' sounds quite merited.
Delete@ 09:47 All of which, whether true or not, is of limited relevance to this case.
DeleteI would grant that in regards to this case specifically, the police certainly do need to do some kind of a review to find out why they missed Adrian's body, seeing as apparently they did conduct some kind of a search on the reservoir.
If Bowron's police are bent and incompetent is it not of relevance to all cases?
DeleteHad he of been suffocated by someone would that appear any differently to drowning in an autopsy especially after such a long time left submerged in water.
ReplyDeleteAlso wasn't he last seen on cctv heading back in the Carrefour solous direction? Yet the reservoir is north past the cctv? Please correct me if I'm wrong but really doesn't add up at all.
Would an autopsy distinguish between him being suffocated by someone or drowning, after such a long time being submerged in water....probably not.
ReplyDeleteAlso please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he last seen on cctv heading back in the Carrefour selous direction yet he turns up in the reservoir that happens to be in the opposite direction, he would of had to have passed that cctv again. Something doesn't add up at all
Yes it would. By the amount of water in lungs.
DeleteSorry to mix the imminent by-election with this story but I believe it is relevant in this case.
ReplyDeleteSurely when you consider this eight month fiasco from the police and so many of the issues underlying the majority of the stories on this site over the years what we really need come September is this.
A declared, one issue, Martin Bell type anti-corruption candidate in a white suit campaigning for accountability at the apex of the Jersey Establishment cesspit. That would be something we could all get behind.
The sojp police must be the only people on this island that believe it was simply a case of "missadventue"
ReplyDeleteHe was heard shouting and being in a disstressed state at the time of he's last know whereabouts! At the other times of contact with people on that night he'd been yes clearly intoxicated but polite. He was obviously being threatened by something or someone, then vanished, pull your socks up sojp
http://www.itv.com/news/channel/update/2016-08-06/lynch-family-thank-jersey-police-for-searching-for-adrian/
ReplyDeleteReally would have thought that ITV, BBC, JEP and super airhead Kristina Moore would have thanked VFC and Rico for doing more than anyone to keep Adrian's disappearance in the public eye. Really the SOJP did little more than sweet FA.
DeleteAdrian's parents have thanked myself and Rico, both publicly, and privately for the work we have done. The local MSM are aware of the public thanks to the Blogs but won't report that part.
DeleteCall me cynical or a conspiracy theorist, but I find the speed after poor Adrian being found on Thursday afternoon, a post mortem being held yesterday and the outcome printed in today's (early) edition of the JEP all rather strange.
ReplyDeleteAll too incredible to be credible to me.
I still don't understand why the search, nor cadavar, dogs picked up his scent though when he was found so close to his last whereabouts?
DeleteFirst up.
ReplyDeleteThe Myth.
Why is Stewart Gull trying to make out that Handois Reservoir is as deep as Loch Ness?
He has said on CTV and BBC Jersey that Handois is very deep in places. According to Jersey Water its deepest point is 4mtrs. The second shallowest reservoir on the Island. Is Gull trying to make excuses for the Adrian possibly not being in handois when extensively searched or trying to pull the UK experts out of the poo?
Divers and Sonar and nothing found. We can see fish and an old tyre and nothing else. The reservoir is small, shallow and clean from fly tipping.
Questions Questions
I don't know Handois but it is a bit strange as I wonder if the water in it has movement such as rivers and the sea? Is there a bridge over it you can fall off or if you slipped in can you get carried away in the water and trapped somewhere until something changes in the water movement? How do you get to it from where Adrian was last seen? And why might he have gone near it trying to get home and why no trace of his journey to it from where last seen? He seemed to have stuck to roads for a couple of hours before then.
DeleteTiny streams running in and out; no water movement, no bridge, no public access ~4'picket fence (not sure about from field sides where there is a bit of a slope into the water)
DeleteProbably possible to fall in but you would probably have to fight your way through some undergrowth.
I wonder why he started walking across fields rather than back to town and help, especially when wearing what may be best shoes and suit for a Christmas party that you wouldn't want to get ruined? Must have been very disorientated but with all that fresh air and walking would think may have sobered up a bit? There are a lot of questions still.
DeleteThis is the one they came to Jersey with. Led by Sergeant Steve Birss
ReplyDeleteTritech Hammerhead offers Search Benefits
29/08/2014 • Industry Sector: Defence
Tritech’s high-resolution survey sonar is proving an invaluable tool in search and recovery operations.
Yorkshire and the Humber Police areas, through their regional underwater search and marine unit, have been using the Tritech SeaKing Hammerhead system to locate missing persons. The system was recently deployed at Snailsden Reservoir, in the peak district, South Yorkshire, England, UK, where it enabled the team to quickly locate the body of a missing person who was believed drowned. Prior to deployment of the sonar, the area was mapped using Tritech’s StarFish 990F, a high-resolution side scan sonar system, to ensure the safety of divers entering the waterway; ultimately reducing the amount of time they had to be in the water, making the operation safer.
Yorkshire and the Humber Police’s marine unit already provide a vital service for the local area, where their operations can include meticulous missing people and crime searches. In addition, the team also visit schools to educate young children of the dangers of playing in open water.
Tritech’s SeaKing Hammerhead sonar provides 360 degree scans of the search area, a geo-referenced plotter display and a built in compass ensures accurate marking and mapping of the search area. The SeaKing Hammerhead can be operated in two frequencies; 675 kHz for large area survey, up to a radius of 100m and 935 kHz for high-definition target examination at up to 40m radius.
Mike Broadbent, Sales Manager, Tritech comments:
“We are very pleased that our high-technology equipment has been selected and proven to speed-up these time sensitive operations. It is important we support underwater search groups such as those at Yorkshire and the Humber Police and it is also very encouraging hearing the positive feedback from them on their success with the SeaKing Hammerhead and StarFish 990F systems.”
Sergeant Steve Birss, Yorkshire and the Humber Police marine unit comments:
“In our role, we are required to locate missing persons quickly and safely, often in nil-visibility conditions the images provided by Tritech’s SeaKing Hammerhead and StarFish 990F were fantastic. The use of this equipment enables us to search larger areas in less time and then quickly guide the diver directly to the missing person. Using this equipment at Snailsden Reservoir reduced the search from weeks to hours, ultimately providing closure for the family concerned.”
Sergeant Steve Birss, Yorkshire and the Humber Police marine unit continues:
“In addition, Tritech’s generosity when we were engaged in very high profile searches in York, North Yorkshire proved invaluable. Prior to our purchase and without any questions, a SeaKing Hammerhead was provided for our use at short notice; a StarFish 990F was also brought to the scene by a member of the Tritech team who offered to operate the equipment on our behalf in adverse weather conditions for many hours. We were very impressed by this customer service at a time when the help was needed most.”
Tritech’s industry-recognised and reliable sonar equipment is proving popular with law enforcement and search rescue/ recovery (SAR) groups for their search, navigation and mapping of a target area. Equipment can be supplied as standalone, part of a packaged solution or tailored to fit a specific operation.
Rico.
Delete"It is important we support underwater search groups such as those at Yorkshire and the Humber Police and it is also very encouraging hearing the positive feedback from them on their success with the SeaKing Hammerhead and StarFish 990F systems.”
So what kind of feedback will the States of Jersey Police be giving then? Considering this super-duper sonar (if the SOJP's version of events are to be believed) can't find a missing person in a body of water little bigger/deeper than a puddle.
How Stewart Gull can say Handois Reservoir is extremely deep in places when the maximum depth is 4 metres is another mystery.
Quote: "Sergeant Steve Birss, Yorkshire and the Humber Police marine unit comments:
“In our role, we are required to locate missing persons quickly and safely, often in nil-visibility conditions the images provided by Tritech’s SeaKing Hammerhead and StarFish 990F were fantastic"
Stuart Gull was in the media saying that poor visibility could have been a factor in not finding Adrian. This is at odds with the above statement.
The SOJP CANNOT have it both ways. They have been saying the searches have been "thorough and extensive." If the SOJP are claiming Adrian was in the reservoir from the night he went missing, and wasn't placed there at a later date, then the search of the reservoir was NOT "thorough and extensive" and/or this super duper sonar machine is a piece of junk.
Again the official line does not stack up.
Experts from a UK police force are aiding the search for Adrian Lynch through specialist sonar equipment. The scanner has been used today to check to Handois Reservoir in St Lawrence, just a short distance from where the 20-year-old was last seen.
ReplyDeleteSonar Specialists from Humberside Police came to the island yesterday and started work on the water alongside the Jersey Fire and Rescue team.
We try and identify what we're looking for and if that means we have to, we lift the hammerhead and position it a slightly different way to look at it from a different angle so we can determine what it is. If we can't, that's when we will ask the dive team to go in an investigate what it is so we can be sure it's what we're looking for.
– SGT STEPHEN BIRSS, HUMBERSIDE POLICE
Sgt Stephen Birss from Humberside Police exp
There are no ifs and buts in this case. Sergeant Steve Birss and Chief of Police Mike Bowron both have a lot of questions to be answered.
ReplyDeleteWhy the passport?
ReplyDeleteAdrian (we presume) was reportedly found with his passport in his pocket.
Did he usually carry his passport with him?
Why would someone go to a night out/works do with their passport?
I have never been challenged to prove my age. Do many young people a night out take their passport?
I believe they do, because doormen have been trained to only accept passports/driving licences as proof of ID, as these cannot easily be faked by your average underage drinker.
DeleteYes, i far as I know many do. i don't find that strange. have they found his keys?
ReplyDeleteI'm not familar with how strict the licensing laws are in Jersey these says, but from photos Adrian looked relatively young for his age, so it's not inconceivable that he carried a passport on nights out in case he was carded.
DeleteI see from a JEP report that the advice that Adrian may have been suffering from hypothermia on the night he disappeared came from the mainland. So unless the JEP report is incorrect, you can't put that on Bowron, whatever grievances you have against him.
Hi Voice - Don't want to intrude on this sad dialogue but I have just posted my first discussion in the Jersey after BREXIT series with Darius Pearce.
ReplyDeleteI think it is well worth looking at so perhaps you could publish this link http://mikedunforsenator.blogspot.com/2016/08/jab-discussions-with-public-number-1.html Thanks Mike Dun
www.jersey.police.uk/news-appeals/2016/august/body-found
ReplyDeletewww.jersey.police.uk/news-appeals/2016/august/body-found-update
and most recently:
http://www.jersey.police.uk/news-appeals/2016/august/body-found-update-2/
"The post-mortem of the body recovered from Handois Reservoir yesterday has been conducted and concluded today.
The Home Office pathologist has been unable to establish a cause of death but has determined there are no signs of trauma or third party involvement.
The condition of the body is consistent with having been immersed in water for several months. Due to the condition of the body, toxicology testing is not feasible, however samples have been taken for DNA analysis in the UK next week for formal identification purposes.
A dental examination, by a forensic odonatologist has taken place, using the dental records of Adrian Lynch for comparison, they have indicated on a balance of probabilities that they match, however cannot be conclusive.
Consequently, formal identification can still not be made at this time."
Confess that I am surprised and disappointed that they are
"unable to establish a cause of death"
and that
"toxicology testing is not feasible"
It strikes me that Adrian's behaviour (on cctv etc) seems more consistent with being disorientated by drugs rather than simply being intoxicated by alcohol. I would be staggering, swaying long before I was unable to find my way home.
What is he opinion of those who knew Adrian or have been following this more closely?
Humberside need to come out and let us know just how confident they are regarding finding nothing in Handois.
ReplyDeleteDo they record their work? Can they re check their sweeps
This young lad found in river in less than 48 hours, different conditions and time of year, but why couldn't this have been done in Jersey?
ReplyDeleteNathan Wood search: Body found in River Dart
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-37003435
"The Home Office pathologist has been unable to establish a cause of death but has determined there are no signs of trauma or third party involvement."
ReplyDeleteHow does the last part slip into the equation when you can't establish cause of death?
"The condition of the body is consistent with having been immersed in water for several months. Due to the condition of the body, toxicology testing is not feasible, however samples have been taken for DNA analysis in the UK next week for formal identification purposes."
ReplyDeleteThe conclusion is as follows. Nobody knows how Mr Lynch got to the reservoir - ended up in the reservoir - how he died - or what from... Case Closed.
Many have said it before but... if the Power/Harper regime came up with this vague, wishy-washy garbage the Bailhaches, le Mains, Shentons and Sean Powers of this world would crucifying them. All aided and abetted by the State Media. Disgusting.
ReplyDeleteHaving dragged their feet during the 'golden hours' Bowron spent about £180,000 FAILING to find one person.
DeleteA workman then found Adrian here:
www.itv.com/news/channel/update/2015-12-12/sonar-experts-help-search-reservoirs-in-hunt-for-adrian-lynch/
This time there will be no investigation pouring over the price of a prawn cocktail because Bowron is a good boy on a lead.
Why did everything go so badly wrong at handois reservoir.
ReplyDeleteSee the article attached about cadaver dogs - that they are trained to pick up scents and even detect bodies underwater. Questions that spring to mind are:
Delete- did he run away from someone and fall? If so he would have been there when the sonar and dogs were used in the search and he would've been found. Sonar, dogs and people can't all fail?
- was his body placed there after the initial search and that's why not discovered?
- if his drink had been spiked he would've been comatose, not walking around for hours?
It is a relief he's been found but surely there should be an independent Inquiry and the case not closed?
http://aboutforensics.co.uk/detection-dogs/
The one and only thing we know is this has been a police debacle.
ReplyDeleteMorning you bloggers.
ReplyDeleteSorry to trouble you all but I seem to be in a bit of bother. I set off for work this morning and I just don't seem to be able to locate the police station.
Kindest regards
Mike B
I do hope someone other than Deputy Mike Higgins will be man/woman enough to stand up in the States and demand answers about this debacle? But I doubt anyone will. Apart from MH they are all poodles.
ReplyDeleteMorning again bloggers.
ReplyDeleteJust to let you all know that I have finally found the police station. using my highly refined police training I did this by working my way down King and Queen Streets moving expertly from sandwich bar to coffee shop. nodding and smiling sagely as I went. Impressive I think you would all agree.
The one bit of bad news is I now seem to have mislaid my cap. Can't find the damn thing anywhere.
Kindest regards.
Mike B
Are your sure your at right one Mike? Can you tell if its one old one or the new or maybe even the little one at St Aubin's?
DeleteAre you sat on it per chance?
DeleteHello again bloggers, Mike B again.
DeleteThis is very embarrassing but it appears that the police station wot I found was not the right one.
The people here (who are ever so nice) say that I am in a place called Guernsey.
But just to keep all of you informed Stuart and me now think my cap may have fallen off while I was walking barefoot across the sea to this Guernsey.
My cap was ever such a nice one (Ian Le Marquand gave it to me for being a good boy) so I'm sure you will all understand that I have authorised my team to bring in some sonar equipment to help find it.
No limit on the budget either (well like I say it is a really nice cap!)I'm sure Home Affairs won't mind.
That's all for now then. I'm sure the cap will soon be found and I can look my best while cruising St Helier town centre. Why am I so confident it will be found you ask?
Easy-peasy. I'm bring in the boys from Humberside. With their record I'm sure the cap will be found in no time.
Toodle pip for now. Keep smiling. I always do.
We need a full statement on how much this shambles has cost the taxpayer. Poor Adrian had to be found so no one would quibble about any amount appropriately spent. The trouble is that we now know much of this money (I have heard off the record the sum is around the quarter of a million pounds mark) wasn't utilised as well as it should. 'Why?' is the question that must be asked in the States. Starting with how much the underwater camera/sonar cost and why did something so expensive fail so miserably.
ReplyDeleteA young man goes to the Christmas party and gets taken home in a taxi for being drunk.
ReplyDelete1. He gets dropped off at wrong location.
2. Drops his phone and wallet at the beginning of his adventure.
3. Walks around in a vague circle for 2/12 hrs
4. Drops his belt.
5. Walks up to Regal Yard looks ok CCTV. After all that walking who wouldn't.
6. Then decides to walk in the direction of a reservoir
7. Then falls in a reservoir
8. Then can't swim or get out of reservoir
10 what the hell really happened that night
On the ball Rico. If he had been as an inebriated as some would suggest, after a wander around St.Lawrence on a relatively 'not too cold' winter evening, he would surely have sobered up somewhat, even if possibly his drink had been spiked. I think it is probably a fact that those who have had a 'few too many' can still find their way home rather like homing pigeons, regardless of how much they have had to drink, and we know that poor Adrian had been dropped off at Carrefour Selous before and found his way home. Why not this time?
DeleteNothing will convince me that that is as straightforward as the SoJP are trying to convince us that it is.
Keep digging Rico!
JUST BREAKING NEWS!
ReplyDeleteJERSEY GOVERNMENT TO SACK CHIEF OF POLICE AS THEY WANT SOMEONE OF MORE COMPETENCE.
RETIRED INSPECTOR JACUES CLOUSEAU IS DUE TO REPLACE HIM TOMORROW.
END.
Jacques Clouseau? Now that would be an upgrade on Bowron!
DeleteAm I right in recalling the States of Jersey police no longer have their own divers? I imagine they called in help from TTS harbours for the search. How's that going to go in the future if those positions are privatised out? S.O.
ReplyDeleteSomeone should lodge a vote of no confidence in Chief of Police Bowron AKA the invisible man.
ReplyDeleteCan I politely ask if you will be posting a blog on the full list of political candidates for the Senatorial by-election after tonight's nomination meeting?
ReplyDeleteAlso will you be putting up a new fully inclusive poll?
Can this page be kept about Adrian.
DeleteComments seem to have dried up. Perhaps time to go with a new angle on the Adrian story? How about why isn't the report into this disgraceful farce going to be made public? how about a petition to demand that it is? This blog has a huge following and is read by some very influential people. What site could be better?
DeleteWould Handois be a short cut to his house? If not, even with disorientation, you get the feeling he wouldn't have gone that way but towards help as he had already tried knocking on a door and calling out. And I've asked a couple of times why cadaver, searchers and sonar found no trace/scent, particularly if the dogs can find bodies underwater and the sonar is state of the art. Were the dogs used around Handois, was the sonar used all over the reservoir, did searchers go to Handois! If so was he there at the time? Should an Inquiry happen into how this case was conducted so that answers can be found or recommendations into how missing persons' cases are investigated in Jersey in the future?
Deletehttp://www.itv.com/news/channel/2016-08-09/report-into-adrian-lynch-investigation-wont-be-made-public/
ReplyDeletejust been on google map. handois is no bigger than a bathing pool. what went wrong with their sonar gear.
ReplyDeleteCan anyone post the approximate dimensions of Handois here as that would be helpful for those of us not familiar with the area. I notice somebody has also helpfully stated that it is only four metres deep at its greatest depth. What about at its most shallow? Also is the majority of Handois four metres deep or is it much shallower generally?
DeleteDimensions of Handois can be seen HERE. it is the second smallest reservois on the island.
DeleteBlimey that IS small. How could sonar not find a body in that?
DeleteThat's the $1m question, or more to the point, however much that sonar machine cost the tax payer. Because if we are to believe what the SOJP are telling us then the machine was a waste of time and money and not up to the job. How much did that machine cost and did its inability to find Adrian cost his family and friends a further 8 months grief and torment? If the sonar machine is as good as its manufacturers say it is, then that would suggest Adrian wasn't in Handois when it was searched and would have been placed there later.
DeleteOne of the key questions is this. I know the area well and I would very much like to know exactly 'where' this young man would have been able to enter the reservoir area, the main building area to the south is heavily fenced off as is the boundary on the road to the north. This would mean if he had entered (on a pitch black night!) he would have to have climbed over the guarding. If he had somehow entered from the longitudinal sides (i.e west and east then again I believe these are also fenced (but if they are not they should be) Someone previously stated that to be absolutely sure the water should have been drained, this is a logical thing to do and under the circumstances the right thing to do, it need not have been all the water but enough to carry out a 100% check.
DeleteI think a good way to help widen these concerns out so the general public is aware of them would be to try and ensure questions on the sonar issue are put to the candidates at each of the upcoming by-election hustings. A simple "If you are elected will you pledge to support a proposition calling for an independent inquiry to the handling of the Adrian Lynch search by Jersey police?' would do it.
ReplyDeleteThis is a most excellent idea. I would also suggest that for those of us wanting answers the only credible candidates are Mike Dun and Deputy Sam Mezec.
Delete100% in agreement. This cannot be allowed to die a death because the answers so far have not been good enough. I also cannot fault your choice of candidates to put these questions to. The only two concerned with thruth and honesty.
DeleteDogs don't lie and nor do Sonar Machines.
ReplyDeleteIt is simple.
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Adrian Lynch was in Handois Reservoir on the 12th December 2015 when Humberside and South Yorkshire searched it using Sonar.
That is what the evidence tells us.
The evidence tells us he wasn't there.
Simple
Do you know exactly where in the reservoir he was found? It would be understandable that e sonar and dogs would have struggled in the north settlement pond , the restriction of reeds ,mud and air spaces would give false or obscured readings.
Deletethe south main reservoir is entirely different ,with hard walls of stone mostly , concrete infill ,mostly and a remarkably small volume. in fact 187 mega litres at 4 m maximum depth is about five harve des pas swimming pools. With a decent fish finder you would spot everything worth catching within half an hour,
I believe he was found in a North-West corner but not sure if it was of the North settlement pond or South main reservois. But surely if there had of been trouble with the readings of the sonar, the Humberside cops would have told the Jersey cops, and they could have put divers in when visibility was better? They could have drained the reservois even. After all the cops are telling us their search was "thorough and extensive."
DeleteFire and Rescue Service staff helped to recover the partially submerged remains, which were found at 10.40 am by Jersey Water staff carrying out routine maintenance, from shallow water at the north-west of Handois Reservoir in St Lawrence at about 2 pm on Thursday, and detectives later confirmed that Mr Lynch's passport had been recovered from the pocket of a jacket found on the human remains.
ReplyDeleteRead more at http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/08/05/adrian-found-at-last-passport-in-the-pocket-that-might-finally-bring-closure/#LqzxwTHP3pGpVH75.99
Filthy Rag reporting that the Adrian report into the police operation will remain secret. You really have to ask why don't you. The Jersey Way rolls on.
ReplyDeleteIndeed we HAVE to ask why. Adrian's grieving family deserve more, but understandably in their present grief do not even want to think any further than one day to the next.
DeleteWe have the excellent bloggers who probably will/can relieve them of that burden and keep the momentum on this very suspect series of events alive and get to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This is no less than the family deserve.
dont worry the jep well hae a big new story next week to make you forget about last week
ReplyDeleteWe'll have a big new story next week to remind you all about last week, stay tuned..................
DeleteLooking forward to it......
DeleteYay, I bet the Team Voice story is more important and just as likely actually true.
DeleteI have just looked at the link you put up above in answer to somebody's question about the size and location of Handois reservoir. This was very helpful as someone who is also not very familiar with the area but I have to admit I am a bit confused.
ReplyDeleteOn the Jersey Waterworks website it states quite clearly that Handois reservoir is only 4 metres in depth at its deepest point. Yet I am quite certain I read in the Jersey Evening Post sometime last week that Handois is 30 meters deep! These figures cannot both be right can they?
Could you shed any light on what the true depth is if possible? I'm not being pedantic because to me finding a body in 4 meters of water just has to be a whole lot easier than searching for one in a depth more than seven times deeper.
Hi Anonymous. Are you sure about this? I have just looked at the link to waterworks and you are quite correct. But this claim you say was in the JEP seems incredible. Can you remember what day you read it as I still have my old newspapers out in the shed and would like to check once I get home from work.
DeleteAll will be told next week.
ReplyDeleteHandois
Remember all the evidence points to Adrian not being in the reservoir when searched on the 12/13th December 2015.
Not our evidence but evidence from the SOJP, Humberside Police and the Pathologists report.
Next week we ask the questions
Was it not searched until the 12th, he went missing on the 4th?!
DeleteThank goodness we have the voice to ask the questions that all others can't or won't ask.
ReplyDeleteCould someone explain why it has taken 8 months for Adrian Lynch to come to the surface of the reservoir in question? I heard that this normally takes between 7/8 days.
ReplyDeleteA very good question.
DeleteAlmost certainly as a result of the massively heavy rainfalls we got a few days before.
DeleteThen why not the winter rainfalls?
DeleteAnonymous 16.04. Did that little bit of bad weather make the body invisible for Closeau Bowron and his Humberside sonar team then?
DeleteSorry to clarify: the body was most likely revealed at that time as a result of the heavy rains experienced - this is somewhat different to the winter rains as they were not preceded by an extended period of hot weather and the subsequent lowering of the level of the reservoir. None of this is an explanation as to why the body was not located in the initial search - simply why it came to the surface at that particular time.
DeleteRemember this from the Jersey water website: they say that water is constantly being pumped INTO Handois from other reservoirs, ready for it to carry on down into treatment works at the foot of WW Valley.
DeleteThus the water in Handois is constantly changing irrespective of the weather. Or, as well as due to the weather.
Jep today reservoir was not that well searched.????
ReplyDeleteIndeed Humberside Police: "Officers from Humberside Police were engaged in the search of the reservoir using specialist sonar equipment, however the full reservoir search could not be completed. The reservoir is in a heavily wooded area with a lot of foliage above and below the water level making the search very difficult."
DeleteBasically admitting that they could well have missed something. SOJP also quoted as having used divers in a "targeted approach" i.e. Not everywhere, and also they did not look in the reservoir in the searches after that.
This is turning into a farce
DeleteIf they had gone down to the pub, pulled out a couple of idiots, given them a sonar and said search the reservoir these are the results i would have expected.Voice, please do a follow up blog on this.
DeleteI believe that a vote of no confidence should be lodged in Chief of Police Mike Bowron if he won't do the decent thing and resign for his failure in the Adrian Lynch case.
ReplyDeleteI'll second that. Sam Mezec might be the man. I think he is brilliant and certainly has my vote in the by-election.
DeleteTwo thoughts.
ReplyDeleteOne someone mentioned questions in the States, probably by Mike Higgins. What about the Police Authority? Is not this what they are there for, so that politicians do not have to breathe over the shoulders of the Police?
Two is there not one single media outlet in the island who might want to earn their spurs and gain a reputation by sending an intrepid reporter to go and find out?
Bowron took over from disillusioned Warcup. Realistically what has this ineffectual, string bound, fluffy puppet, Chief of Police, achieved in his huge wage pulling few years?!
ReplyDeleteAnswer, in 2015 a reduction in REPORTED crime by 7% ......Rejoice!
DeleteWhat on earth happened? Can the very supportive community who helped search for Adrian make complaints about how this case has been handled? You trust the Authorities to have done what they said. Hiw come the "extensive" and "thorough" search has now gone to being "not completely searched"? We're the cadaver dogs actually used then? There has to be accountability for this ? Family, friends and Jersey community left to search for him.
ReplyDeletehttp://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/08/13/reservoir-was-not-fully-searched-say-uk-police/
This belated admittance that the 'thorough' search of Handois was nothing of the sort is obviously meant as a 'let's move on' statement to cover the backsides of Bowron, Gull and likely the Humberside leadership too.
ReplyDeleteBut what it must signal are calls for some resignations starting with Bowron at the top. Even if one believes that Adrian was in Handois when it was nominally searched what the family have been put through even by such appalling incompetence is beyond thinking about.
Those calls for resignations should start in Jersey's seat of government, the States.
The photo of a search boat on Handois in the JEP shows it to be a heavily wooded area and the Police statement describes it as that also. So how did Adrian get in there? Not local so is there somewhere he could've feasibly slipped in? A post above says there is fencing around. So how did he get over fences, through woodland and into water? Can anyone local shed any light?
ReplyDeleteHaving spoken to Adrians father over the weekend the conversation will remain private but I finished by making one promise and that was we at team voice will make sure every question of the police gets asked. Everyone one can see that this is a case of truth's, half truths and lies. Humberside properly searched that reservoir. On that you can be assured.
ReplyDeletepeople are right heads should roll. But lets ask the questions first
What a complete and utter fiasco.
In Team Voice yet again we can trust. This whole case is now getting farcical and only a fool could not see through the attempts to appease the public which have fallen very flat.At least we can rest assured that you will fulfil your promise to Adrian's family.
DeleteHow utterly sad and shocking that they could have been spared 8 months of utter misery and not knowing. Now they are having to grieve and still look for answers. It does not bear thinking about and my heart and soul goes out to them.
Rico,
Delete"Humberside properly searched that reservoir. On that you can be assured. "
This is quite a strong statement, and unless I misunderstand you, seems to conflict with a quote attributed to the Humberside Police’s Marine Unit in a recent JEP article.
http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/08/13/reservoir-was-not-fully-searched-say-uk-police/
I am thinking what is going on here behind the scenes is a run for cover to dodge responsiblity between various police forces.
Of course, that does not have any direct relation to arriving at a conclusion regarding the cause of death for the unfortunate Adrian Lynch. My personal suspicion is that his tragic death wasn't suspicious, but I could be wrong.
Hi Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteI just can't believe that Humberside came over and did half a job. If there were grey areas why didn't the SOJP With divers search them? I'm sure Humberside would have informed the SOJP that Handois could not be declared clear. This was December 2015. The SOJP, as far as I know, never returned with divers or sonar.
When Adrian was discovered in Handois why didn't Stewart Gull come out with the reservoir not being properly searched but he didn't he started going on about its depth.
I think you are right about the run for cover sketch.
But how can you end up in the reservoir? Not local and fences and woodland have been mentioned. Why would he walk to a reservoir over fences and woodland? He was dressed up in his suit so why go off roading? Can you just fall in it walking along a path? Can someone explain how he could've got there? And why didn't dogs pick the scent up?
ReplyDeleteYou have to ask whether the truth could be that the poor chap was killed, be it accidentally or deliberately, by someone linked to the police leadership? Certainly by someone with links and influence to power. Far-fetched this may seem at first consideration. But not once one knows the truth that the SOJP don't bother to prosecute people committing crimes if the victims are on the list as being anti-establishment or trouble-makers.
Deleteyou do wonder if he ended up there after the search? Is it likely he decided to walk that way to get home? You can't be drunk or disorientated enough to not know the difference between houses and roads and fields and reservoirs unless you can suddenly fall in by tripping over a kerb. as don't know the area that's what I'm wondering?
DeleteWe certainly need the States best politician Deputy Mike Higgins to ask questions about all of this.
ReplyDeleteAny news on if this subject has been put to candidates at the by-election hustings? I don't go out in the evening myself.
ReplyDeleteGoogle earth it and then use street view to see North end of reservoir, which is closest point to where he was heading. There appears to be a big chain link fence around at least part of it, and chest high hedge separating the site from the road. Was the gate left open though? If not I don't see an easy way in from the North. Someone on the ground needs to check out the rest. Maybe a complete video walk around would help those overseas gain a clearer picture. However you look at it by that time of the morning Adrian should have been relatively with it given that he had plenty of time to sober up a little. Unless...... he was having some kind of bad reaction to drugs he took either willingly or was given without his knowledge.
ReplyDeleteI confess to hating all this speculation though when the family must be going through so much grief, but at the moment this just does not add up, and they probably want answers as much, or I should say more so than the rest of us. Until a plausible explanation backed up by at least some evidence emerges, I doubt they will get any peace. Its a tragic end to a bright young life. Rest in peace Adrian.
Thank you. I agree with you. So very sorry for all involved. RIP Adrian.
DeleteDespite our best efforts and advances in technology, we recognised the limitations of open water searching, including quite hostile terrain. Divers were also used in a targeted approach, but we know visibility was at best poor and cadaver dogs were deployed around the perimeter of the reservoir in January. The Handois reservoir was just one of a number of water searches conducted in the designated search area. Further targeted searching had taken place as recently as July, but that did not include the reservoir. Sadly, the reservoir only gave him up last week.
ReplyDelete– DETECTIVE SUPERINTENDENT STEWART GULL, JERSEY POLICE
Now it's hostile terrain. Does it look hostile on google map?
I know what is hostile in Jersey - our utterly bent police leadership.
DeleteThe South side is more accessible as you can walk around the locked gates. But how this all looks at 3am in the morning is anyone's guess. Dark and uninviting would be my guess unless they have lights with sensors.
ReplyDeleteWhat reason would he have to go in there though? Like the above comment, I feel awful speculating, but I think Jersey and overseas would like answers, maybe as it was such a strange chain of events that happened that night. Such heartbreak for his family and friends. How they, and the community, have fought so hard to find him, he was blessed to have such love around him.
DeleteItv channel news re inquest and memorial service
ReplyDeletehttp://www.itv.com/news/channel/2016-08-16/adrian-lynch-inquest-opens/
The Biology of Drowning
ReplyDeleteThe human body is slightly heavier than fresh water. Consequently, when
unconsciousness takes place, the body sinks. Fat bodies are slightly more
buoyant than thin bodies, but still all bodies will sink in fresh water. If there is
considerable clothing on the body along with shoes, articles in the pockets and
other paraphernalia, it renders the body considerably less buoyant. The question
is often asked, "When a body sinks, how far down will it go?" There is some
dispute on this point, but the very best evidence indicates that a body will go to
the bottom regardless of how deep the water may be, unless it meets with some
obstruction or upward current which tends to prevent it. As a body sinks into
deep water, the pressure of the water tends to compress gasses in the
abdominal and chest cavities with the result that the body displaces less water as
it sinks deeper and consequently becomes less and less buoyant, the further
down it goes.
Almost without exception, a dead body lying on the bottom of a river or lake will
come to the surface again. This is due to gas formed in the body tissues as
decay occurs. When enough gas has formed to inflate the tissues and distend
the skin, the body becomes lighter than water and rises to the surface. This
process is due to the action of bacteria within the body. Consequently, the length
of time that elapses before the body rises depends not only upon the amount of
fat contained in the tissues but on the temperature of the water. If the water is
warm, the formation of gas within the body occurs rapidly and the body may rise
to the surface in a day or two. However, if the water is cold, bacterial action
takes place very slowly and it may take several weeks before the body appears
on the surface. When a body is fully distended it is almost impossible to sink
even with counter weights
A frequently asked question is, "When a person drowns, where may you expect
ReplyDeleteto find the body and if it later comes to the surface, where may you expect to find
it?" When a drowning occurs in a river, the most common mistake is to search
for the body too far downstream. Sinking takes place immediately, which results
in the victim reaching the bottom close to the point he was last seen on the
surface. When the body begins to rise, it will appear on the surface not far from
where it disappeared.
If drowning takes place when a river is swollen, the supposition is that the rapid
current will carry a body along before it strikes the bottom or encounters an
obstruction. The fact is that the current on the surface is entirely different from
the current on the bottom. While the speed on the surface may be 10 knots,
current speed will decrease with depth. There is virtually no current on t
bottom. Consequently, the deeper a body sinks the slower is the current acting
ReplyDeleteupon it until it reaches the bottom were it will stay. It is rare that a victim is found
downstream more than a few hundred yards from where it disappeared, and
more often than not the body is recovered in close proximity to where it
disappeared. It is true that when the body begins to rise to the surface after
several days it may drift a considerable distance from the site of death
Could they not postpone it out of respect
ReplyDeletehttp://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/08/16/jersey-water-defends-open-tour-of-reservoir/
Bailiwick Express - no suspicious circumstances
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bailiwickexpress.com/jsy/news/adrian-lynch-inquest/?t=i#.V7THphRLOrU
You will note that what the Bailiwick Express has published is, what's known as "Churnalism." it has basically repeated something somebody has said. Because somebody has said it doesn't make it true/factual.
DeleteWe (Team Voice) question the party line and will be publishing a Blog at the weekend questioning the (mis)information peddled by certain parts of the media and some of the gumph churned out by the SOJP..........Stay tuned!