Thursday, 7 October 2010

Napier Report Immenent (5) Double Standards?

With all the rush to criticize Lenny Harper and Graham Power QPM, It would appear that those criticized in the Napier Report will not be subjected to the same rush, treatment,  standards or media attention.


The e-mails below are once more self explanatory and are the next in the chain recently published by Rico SordaTeam Voice will endeavour to keep readers up to date with any developments as they happen, or not, as the case may be.


From: Terry Le Sueur

Sent: 07 October 2010 08:35
To: Bob Hill
Cc: All States Members (including ex officio members)
Subject: RE: Napier Report Response

Dear Bob,


I acknowledge that this process is taking longer than any of us would have liked. However I am determined not fail at the last hurdle by being pushed into a course of action which might prejudice the whole outcome. That is why I do not wish to publish the Report before the resolution of any disciplinary issues, and neither, I am sure, would you.

I will alert you as soon as I am in a position to publish the report.

Terry.


from Bob Hill


to Terry Le Sueur

cc "All States Members (including ex officio members)" ,

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date Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:03 AM

subject RE: Napier Report Response

mailed-by gov.je

Dear Terry,


Publication of the Napier report and any related disciplinary action.

Thank you for your email below and for addressing the matter so promptly. I think that it is clear that we are now both agreed on the need to publish the report and also to address any disciplinary issues which arise from its contents. Where we appear to differ is on matters of timing and the sequence in which the necessary actions need to be taken.

It might be useful to remind all parties that the report refers to actions which took place in November 2008 and which have already been subject to significant examination and comment, both in the Royal Court, the States, and the Media. I think it improbable that, as Chief Minister, you will find much information in the Napier report that is new. I take it as given that over the previous two years you will have made yourself familiar with the sequence of events which the report now addresses. What is now new is that these events are described in a form which is reader-friendly and which sets out a number of observations and conclusions, none of which will come as a great surprise to those who have been following the case. I am also aware that the final signed-off version of the report has been in your possession since 13th September 2010.

I have of course been in possession of the final version of the report since 17th September on a confidential basis as part of the arrangement which was established prior to Napier being commissioned.

In our recent exchanges you have repeatedly urged me to desist from publishing the report on the basis that you are considering disciplinary action in light of what it reveals and that you do not wish any disciplinary measures to be prejudiced. In this morning’s exchange you ask for further delay on this basis. Our most recent exchanges have been copied to other States Members and there is now significant media interest in the report and your anticipated response. Unsurprisingly, I have been urged by some to publish the report immediately regardless of the consequences. Equally, it has been suggested to me that I am in some way being manoeuvred into a position in which my decision to publish will be used as an excuse to abandon disciplinary action for which you and fellow Ministers have no genuine appetite or inclination. I have had to give some considerable thought to these conflicting pressures and have tried to decide what it best in the public interest.

In considering these matters I have researched my files on the relevant events and it is clear that there are precedents which indicate to me that the prejudicial risk may not be as significant as you suggest.


For example, you will be aware that in August and September 2009 the local media featured a series of interviews with the retiring Senior Investigating Officer, Mick Gradwell, in which he criticised the management of the enquiry prior to his appointment. The interviews received extensive coverage and were widely interpreted as an attack on the conduct of Mr Harper and Mr Power. Lawyers representing Mr Power’s Professional Association wrote to the then Solicitor General (now the Attorney General) protesting at the apparent prejudicial nature of what had been disclosed. The Solicitor General replied in a letter dated 7th September 2009 said “it is not accepted that the statements of Mr Gradwell would be prejudicial to the fairness of any hearing concerning Mr Power.”


You will also recall that on 21st March 2010 the current Minister for Home Affairs spoke on the local BBC “Talkback” programme. During that programme he made extensive reference to the report by Wiltshire Police spoke of alleged criticisms said to have been expressed in that report. About the same time the Minister gave a detailed interview to the JEP relating to the Wiltshire enquiry and the disciplinary proceedings against Mr Power, which were still live at that time. In a leading article the newspapers showed a picture of the cover of the Wiltshire report and commented on its anticipated contents. In subsequent exchanges both yourself and the Minister for Home Affairs denied that any prejudice had occurred.

If the above precedents are followed it would appear that the dangers of prejudice arising from a publication of the Napier report may have been over-stated.

In light of all of the above I have had to decide which course of action on my part would best serve the public interest at this time.

After some thought I have decided to provide you with a further opportunity to complete your consideration of any disciplinary issues and would hope that you can do this before the end of this week. I am however alert to the fact that the States are sitting next Tuesday (12th October 2010) and that questions on the matter are inevitable. I think that it is realistic to say that, whatever the complications; the next States sitting is effectively a deadline for us both.

I hope that this letter is useful in setting out a timetable for events and that any outstanding considerations can be completed within the next few days.

Regards

Deputy F. J. (Bob) Hill, BEM.,

Submitted by Team Voice.

54 comments:

  1. give d,hill a bone for being a good boy and doing as he is told by tls and the rest im sure he might be a minster next year?what a joke the states are

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  2. Bob's letter is good and of course it is factually correct but the longer he keeps playing Le Sueur's game and allowing it to drift, the weaker his previous statements become.

    I would urge Bob Hill to reconsider his position. Publish the Napier report in full, and allow natural justice to take its course. The government can look after itself, but the people of Jersey are dependent upon politicians like Bob Hill to look after their interests.

    This report is in the public interest and perhaps most importantly it will give hope to those abuse survivors whose claims where dismissed by the upper echelons of a deeply conflicted COM's and Judiciary.

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  3. Martin/Mandingo.

    Like I said yesterday, they have him (Bob Hill) over a barrel. If he releases the Report the disciplinary actions could get dropped and he will be blamed for it and the “accredited” media will have a field day. “Bob Hill prevented anybody being disciplined” would be the headline. He has to play it by the book.

    One must remember Napier only came about because of Bob Hill’s P9/2010. Terry Le Sueur had no intention of holding any kind of enquiry. We must look at the bigger picture and play it by the book, right now looks like the best option.

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  4. Walker, Lewis, Gradwell, Warcup, Ogley, Critch, Le Sueur, Le Marquand, Bailhache Bros, Le Cocq and the foot stamping lackeys should hang their heads in shame.

    And the media? Especially the JEP, should take a long hard look at themselves this day and examine their professional ethics. Hill is to be lauded but this procrastination displays a lack of ruthlessness - the type of which is in common supply by those in power.Fight fire with fire.Only then will justice be done.

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  5. Would people prefer that deputy hill did nothing? it looks to me that he's dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't. You've got this far deputy and i have every confidence in you. You could have been one of the lackeys that do and say nothing you're not and i have every faith that you know what you're doing and I for one thank you for it

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  6. my be tls has told d,hill he will get the same tretment as stuart syvret if he dose not do as hes told and that is what hes doing so stuart goes to court friday they nail him to the mast and d,hill sits on the report tls wins again what a sad day for jersey

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  7. Talk about having a power cut on the money shot.

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  8. I appreciate that Deputy Hill is stuck between a rock and a hard place, but really do wonder how this will not affect Stuart Syvret's appearance in court tomorrow?

    Without any doubt Deputy Hill knows exactly what he is doing, and whilst we are all chomping at the bit we have waited far to long so far, so I guess we will have to exercise a little patience.

    Does anybody feel Terry is playing a rather dodgy hand?

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  9. I feel for Stuart in all of this. Terry is so conflicted he shouldn't be saing or doing anything concerning this.

    Today,they win again.

    Tomorrow, who knows juat be another excuse

    Joke

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  10. Please can someone help with this as I think Stuart ought to be nominated for this award.

    http://www.community-champions.org/

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  11. Look, if Syvret loses the abuse of process agrgument and there was evidence in existence which could have assisted him but was being withheld from him, he will be able to rightfully add that to the list of things he could appeal on.

    We all know that he will lose it regardless of Napier. Even if it contained concrete evidence that the prosecution was indeed politically motivated. The AG...sorry Freudian slip there, the judge will find some intellectually dishonest way of finding in favour of the prosecution.

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  12. The report can find its way to Stuart before Friday. How he received it will be his business and whilst suspicion will point its finger to Bob Hill it could never be proven. Stuart could say it was posted to him by somebody anonymous who stated that it was left on a photocopier at Cyril Le Marquand House!

    Plus isn't what he says in court simpy a matter for the court? It is not a matter for the States as Le Main's idle threats and letters to PPC have recenty shown.

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  13. "my be tls has told d,hill he will get the same tretment as stuart syvret if he dose not do as hes told "

    I should think that all of the Jersey politicians, after witnessing the disgraceful hammering those cowardly toads have given Deputy Labey, and anyone else who has given even slight support to ensure that Jersey has the bare basics of a justice system, must be so angry with the tiny minority who are swaggering and bullying and throwing their weight about that they will be eager to find a way to dissassociate with those wicked criminals. I have a tremendous strong feeling that the wall is about to come down. It won't be an easy thing for Jersey to face up to though. I think it is going to be hard for the survivors of the abuse to forgive. I hope and pray that they will be able to. These politicians who have stayed silent out of fear do not need condemnation, they also need to be heard. Dear God, please let your gracious forgiving spirit be here. Please pray for the peace of this island, the door is about to open, the wall of silence is about to tumble.

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  14. It may well be the urgency for report to be made available by tomorrow may have subsided because Stuart Syvret has been forwarded a copy, or has knowledge that his case will be delayed.

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  15. Bob Hill is to be thoroughly commended for being almost unique among current States members in standing up to the corrupt system in place. We have to trust his judgement. However, it is rather ominous that Tel Boy has not even complied with Bob's minimum requirement laid out when setting the deadline at today. He, or rather those non elected officials who really run the island (former AG's and the like), are obviously confident of their ability to steamroller any opposition. Lenny Harper

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  16. Lenny.

    I wholeheartedly agree. Bob Hill is one of the very few in this government that will stand up and be counted. But look what happens when he does.

    He is, in some circles, being criticized for not publishing the Napier Report. The Napier Report that only exists because of Deputy Hill’s P9/2010 and his sheer perseverance to get openness and accountability into our government/Civil Service.

    Any criticism for the Napier Report not being published should be levelled at Terry Le Sueur. “They” are looking (in my opinion) for a reason/excuse not to discipline certain individuals and are hoping Bob Hill will give it to them by publishing this Report. If Bob Hill doesn’t give them the excuse they are looking for, then they will have to come up with another idea as to why certain individuals won’t be disciplined.

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  17. The problem for the posters on this blog is that you are still assuming its still the smoking gun you are looking for when its not. Get Bob Hill to read it to you if you don't believe me!

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  18. In the grand scheme of things, who out of the players involved could actually be disciplined over this.

    For example, those who are now dead, retired, resigned or paid off handsomly cannot be on the list.

    Do you have a list please VFC?

    Shall I start?

    'Shredder' Ogley. Still in post and deeply involved.

    Next?

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  19. For whom the bell tolls7 October 2010 at 14:58

    So lets just say, hypothetically, that eventually Ogley takes the rap. Get's a six figure sum for being a good boy and keeps his mouth shut a la Pollard. Then takes his holiday in the sun. Probably even comes back to Jersey and gets a few more better paid non exec director's posts. The politico's sweep up and life returns to normal. We the public keep taking the 'mogadon media' pills.

    This is not how you run a nation but it is how you run a tiny Island.

    VFC I don't buy it when you say they have Bob Hill over a barrel. I think he has them over a barrel and should just get all niagra on their sorry asses. I mean he's been on this sketch since the beginning and now he has the ability to show them up for what they really are. So what if they turn round and say it might prejudice any future disciplinary hearings? Ogley, or whoever is now under suspicion, ain't going to have to run the same gauntlet that harper and power did. The mogadon media wont let that happen. They wont be allowed to let that happen. No Siree - it's barbados and baby cham whilst sitting on a closed book.

    Bob - your a decent man but your an old man now with perhaps only another year left in the States. So what if you get sidelined in the future? You will have done the right thing and the public will thank you for that. Think about the younger generation. We don't want to live under a government that witholds the truth.

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  20. Just because Lewis, Crick, and Walker are no longer in the equation, doesn't mean that they cannot be held accountable for helping to get into this totaly embarrassing mess.
    The same can be said for Le Marquand, Davies, and Le Sueur, for having plenty of time and money to get themselves and others out of this totaly embarrassing mess.
    And as for Ogley he has proved time and time again that he should have been sacked years ago!

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  21. E-mail from Chief Minister Terry Le Sueur to all States members and others.

    Tomorrow will see the publication of the long awaited Napier Report.

    From: Terry Le Sueur
    Sent: 07 October 2010 14:37
    To: Bob Hill
    Cc: All States Members (including ex officio members)
    Subject: RE: Napier Report Response


    Dear Bob,

    Thank you for your detailed response and your understanding stance.
    I have just in the last few minutes received the advice I have been seeking regarding the disclosure of the Napier Report prior to the resolution of any disciplinary issues. When I received preliminary verbal advice on this point I was advised, and indeed advised you, that such disclosure might prejudice such resolution. That advice was given in general terms without reference to this particular report.
    Having received further advice I am satisfied, that, on balance, disclosure is acceptable from the point of view of disciplinary issues, although there could be other employment considerations. I have therefore instructed the Deputy Chief Executive, who holds the master copy of this report, to make it available to all States Members and the media no later than tomorrow morning. I say "no later than" because he is currently out of the office at a Royal Court hearing, and I am about to go to a meeting in Guernsey.
    I would hope that in view of this undertaking to publish, you would continue to keep the Report confidential until it is offically released to all States members and the media.
    Thank you for your forbearance and co-operation to date.

    Terry.

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  22. Lets not forget, TLS took Ogley's word nothing was wrong!

    TLS would surely have to resign if Ogley is seriously at fault, because the original investigation called for by Bob Hill was not allowed to be.

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  23. "The problem for the posters on this blog is that you are still assuming its still the smoking gun you are looking for when its not. Get Bob Hill to read it to you if you don't believe me!"

    Have you read it????

    If you have are you brave enough to tell us how you came about a copy???

    I think not.

    JRCbean

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  24. from Bob Hill
    to Terry Le Sueur
    cc "All States Members (including ex officio members)" ,
    Channel 103 ,
    Channel TV ,
    JEP Editorial ,
    JEP Newsdesk ,
    BBC Radio Jersey & Spotlight TV ,
    "Spotlight (Spotlight)"
    date Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:37 PM
    subject FW: Napier Report Response
    mailed-by gov.je

    Good Afternoon Terry,

    Thank you for your email and naturally I am pleased that you agree with my sentiments below in that the Napier Report does not hold a lot of significance in relation to disciplinary matters. I note that moves are afoot to publish the Report in hard copy and make it available to Members and the media tomorrow morning. You will recall that I had expressed concern that there is a Court case in process tomorrow morning and I believe that to ensure that justice is seen to be done the Napier Report which has been denied to Mr Syvret should be made available to him at the earliest opportunity for him to judge whether there is anything in the Report which is of relevance to his case.

    We now live in an electronic age and it should not be difficult to scan a hard copy so that it can be circulated this afternoon to all States Members, the media, Mr Syvret and Mr Power and embargoed until 9am tomorrow morning.

    I note that you are on your way to Guernsey and that John Richardson holds a master copy of the Report which he is arranging to print. To ensure that you receive this email I will copy John and Vanessa in this email with a request that they ensure you receive this email and are able to give instructions for a hard copy to scanned and circulated today. I may add the scanning process will be a lot quicker and a cheaper option

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  25. To all you honest but frightened politicians, who feel too afraid to do anything to rock the boat:

    Just think about this. All of this came about because of little children being brutally abused, and some of them murdered. You know it is the truth, you know. And all the massive effort of those who were reponsible to cover up their crimes - and some of you have been dragged into helping cover up this scandal, against your will, from fear.

    The abuse is still happening. They do not put so many of these poor children in big homes any more, they get the children via the secret family courts and forced adoption these days. The paedophile ring is still in operation.

    Please, just understand that this is such an important opportunity for this terrible cycle of wickedness to be smashed for ever. You may feel frightened of what people may think of you, for not coming forward sooner, but us PINDOWN survivors, we understand all about intimidation, we do understand.

    Please, I do beg you, do not lose this opportunity of doing something truly great. This is a chance to destroy something so wicked, so disgusting, that people will cry when they understand at last, and people will be so grateful to those who broke this heavy chain. Please, listen to your concience, please.

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  26. TLS makes it sound like the States of Jersey is run by four people, two of whom are busy and the others finish work at 5pm! He's funny. Like a throw back to the 1950's.

    So common sense has prevailed but will it be in time for Stuart Syvret? If it can go into the public domain at 9am tomorrow that gives Syvret no time to read it, summarise its contents and put it into the context of his defence whilst summing up. All of this takes time, maybe even days. Oh the CM really knows how to play the game and crank up the pressure.

    Bob - do the right thing. Give Syvret a photocopy of your document tonight and give the guy a chance. Right now they have tied both is hands to his right leg!

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  27. So it is due to come out after Stuart's date in court eh?

    Disgraceful

    The Beano is not the Rag

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  28. well when im wrong i hold my hands up and this time i was. well done to d,hill and vfc i apologize to both for my early comment,s but please d,hill get a copy to s syvret asap

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  29. Martin.

    Your frustration is shared. Rightly or wrongly Deputy Hill plays by the book and it can be very frustrating and drawn out at times.

    He is a methodical plodder, very well researched and extremely determined, but he gets results, sometimes not as quick as we would like, but he gets them.

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  30. VFC

    I notice that channelonline have removed their story about the email chains to Deputy Hill and other States members. Bit of pressure from above there?

    Guess what, I still had the page on my PC when I got back from work this evening. So here it is in two parts.

    "Power suspension: Disciplinary action possible
    An independent report into the suspension of Jersey's former Police Chief could lead to disciplinary action.

    Chief Minister Terry Le Sueur says he's urgently considering the issue.

    In an email to States members tonight (Wednesday) Senator Le Sueur said: 'As you may be aware, I have now received the Report into the suspension on 12th November 2008 of the (former) Chief Officer of the States of Jersey Police ("the Napier Report").

    'Having read this Report carefully, I am of the view that there could possibly be grounds for disciplinary action arising out of the report. I am taking advice on this and considering it as a matter of urgency and anticipate making a decision on this shortly.

    'I have also sought appropriate advice about the publication of the Napier Report prior to any disciplinary proceedings which may, after consideration, take place and I am advised that publication might prejudice any disciplinary process which may be required.

    'Although I have shared the Napier Report in confidence with the Deputy of St. Martin, he has acknowledged that it is important for any disciplinary process that may be required to be conducted properly so that there can be no question of any impropriety. The Deputy of St. Martin has therefore agreed to continue to hold the Report in confidence.

    'I am grateful to the Deputy for his understanding in this matter and I hope that all States members will similarly respect the need to conclude any disciplinary issues prior to publication. I confirm that on the conclusion of any disciplinary issues, the Napier Report will be published in a full and unredacted form'.

    But not all States members are happy about the report being witheld at present, including Deputy Hill. In an email to the Chief Minister last night he wrote:

    'Dear Terry, Thank you for your reply but you are well aware that it falls far short of what I am asking. Your email below was sent without any discussion with me therefore I have not agreed to hold the Report in confidence for what seems to be an indefinite period.

    'The purpose of my email was for you to show some leadership in an impartial way. You have been in possession of the Report since 13th September and must have been considering disciplinary action. When you gave me a copy of the Report on Friday 17th September you told me you were considering disciplinary action and were seeking advice. However it was envisaged that the Report would be circulated soon after my return from holiday. I believe you have had ample time to seek advice to determine whether to instigate disciplinary action. Many States Members have been of the view that the suspension of the former Police Chief was not conducted in a satisfactory manner and that was endorsed by the Royal Court some months later. The evidence has therefore been to hand in the public domain for over 18 months.
    You have stated that are taking advice and considering it as a matter of urgency and anticipate making a decision on this shortly. However in my opinion It would appear that you are trying to stall the process in the knowledge that the Napier Report could be of some value in a Court Case which is in progress. I do not want to prejustice any disciplinary case but equally I do not want to deny justice to an ongoing Court Case.
    '

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  31. pt 2

    But not all States members are happy about the report being witheld at present, including Deputy Hill. In an email to the Chief Minister last night he wrote:

    'Dear Terry, Thank you for your reply but you are well aware that it falls far short of what I am asking. Your email below was sent without any discussion with me therefore I have not agreed to hold the Report in confidence for what seems to be an indefinite period.

    'The purpose of my email was for you to show some leadership in an impartial way. You have been in possession of the Report since 13th September and must have been considering disciplinary action. When you gave me a copy of the Report on Friday 17th September you told me you were considering disciplinary action and were seeking advice. However it was envisaged that the Report would be circulated soon after my return from holiday. I believe you have had ample time to seek advice to determine whether to instigate disciplinary action. Many States Members have been of the view that the suspension of the former Police Chief was not conducted in a satisfactory manner and that was endorsed by the Royal Court some months later. The evidence has therefore been to hand in the public domain for over 18 months.
    You have stated that are taking advice and considering it as a matter of urgency and anticipate making a decision on this shortly. However in my opinion It would appear that you are trying to stall the process in the knowledge that the Napier Report could be of some value in a Court Case which is in progress. I do not want to prejustice any disciplinary case but equally I do not want to deny justice to an ongoing Court Case.
    '

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  32. pt3

    All that said I am encouraged by your assurance that this is now a matter of urgency but that is what you told me last week when you thought you were going to a statement. However, after some thought, I will take no further action in this matter before 2pm tomorrow (Thursday 7th October 2010.). This should be sufficient time for you to complete your consideration of any possible disciplinary action. If you do decide that disciplinary action is appropriate and the individual person is named and make a statement to that effect, then I will seek to avoid any action which might cause difficulties to the disciplinary process. However, if the current uncertainty is allowed to continue then I will take such action as appears to me to be in the public interest.

    'While I recognise that this position may cause you some difficulty, I can only repeat that this exchange relates to a report which has been in your possession since 13th September 2010 and which is subject to growing speculation regarding its contents. I believe that it is now time to bring this speculation to an end by prompt and decisive action. At this time I am content for you to continue to take the lead on this matter but reserve all of my options if no clear decision is taken within the timescale I have indicated.

    Regards

    Deputy F. J. (Bob) Hill, BEM.'

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  33. pt 4

    Deputy Paul Le Claire also sent the following email to the Chief Minister:

    'Dear Terry, you said to me last week I must call things as I see them. So here goes on this. I see this as a continuation of a culture of concealement and denial in order to deflect blame and accountability for poltical expediency.
    Please demonstrate that I am mistaken ?
    Kind Regards

    Paul

    P.S. I am not the only one in this assembly or the island who sees and smells.

    The Chief Minister replied: 'Dear Paul, I have already stated that I will publish the Report in a full and unredacted form as soon as possible. This does not sound like concealment to me.

    Terry'.

    Deputy Trevor Pitman sent the folloowing email to the Chief Minister:

    'Terry, Why all this red-herring talk of 'publication'? As States members - unless there really is something to hide, whether till certain dates have passed or otherwise - it is outrageous that we are still waiting a month after you received it; going on toward what...nine odd months since we were told it would take six weeks to complete! The question I would put to you, Terry, is whatever happened to all your talk of 'inclusive' government? We are not talking 'publication' even though it seems the preferred way this COM does business is media first, elected representatives last - we are asking as elected representatives to SEE the report and whatever, good, bad or indifferent might be in it. Also, for me at least, whether this latest many months overdue document was worth it or not. Surely this is not too much to ask? If we are not to be allowed to see it then I genuinely believe that Bob has an obligation to take it on himself to publish as he suggests.

    Trevor.'

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  34. See BBC Jersey is up to its old tricks again, has the headline story but the article is page not found.

    Thank goodness for citizen media, I've been following you all day!

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  35. ctv are only going through the motions,the majority of comments are negative,as to be expected.Well done deputy Hill.

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  36. Are we in the 21st century.

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  37. dose anyone know what time mr syvert is in court on friday?

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  38. Pretty certain SS is in court at 10a.m.

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  39. What time VFC, or do I have to ring you again?

    Keep Smashing Jersey Corruption....

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  40. Ian.

    Not sure am waiting for Stuart to tell me....and others. I think it's 10 O'clock.

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  41. Jonathan St. Pierre Park7 October 2010 at 21:27

    "Are we in the 21st Century"

    No shag. Its the 50's. Your'e in Wyoming. Now keep your eyes peeled for a UFO with Terry on the bridge.

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  42. Perhaps I could be excused for missing the point but do need the Napier Report to confirm that the suspension of Graham Power was a total balls up...............

    There must exist a procedures manual clearing stating the process that should have taken place .....

    Look under 'Dsciplinary Procedures.

    There was no process followed and the Napier Report will no doubt succcinctly point this out.

    Basically a bunch of establishment politicians and a head civil servant honcho, ganged up and bullied that man out of his job.

    Realising that they had made a big boo boo,Lewis was sacrificed, damage limitation the Jersey Way kicked in. A few favours were called in, their like minded friends and fellow politicians in the asssembly then tried their dam best to keep the lid tightly on the box.

    Thankfully there have been numerous states members who have kept at it...........picked at it like a festering scab and finally we limp to a finish and the publication of a report that will reveal nothing more than a failure to folllow process has ocured.

    The fact that the chief of police has been treated in such a shameful way actually makes me wonder how many people have been driven out of their jobs by these bully boy tactics but have been too frightened or not well enough connected to have the tenacious few fight for their cause.

    One has to hand it to teh establishment though, they have brought down Stuart Syvret and one wonders how impartial Bridget Shaw will be in her summing up tomorrow...........

    Syvret was so wrong to name and shame people on the basis of heresay because at the end of teh day he too is not immune from following due process, the namimng of that nurse will be his downfall........he ws wrong, it was not in th epublic interest to name that nurse....he has broken data protection law and abused parliamentary privilege.

    I voted Syvret in the last election. I think in his heart he knows he was wrong and he should be man enough to apologise for the pain and distress he has caused to so many people over such reckless action...he is not above the law.......let us see how the law treats him..........

    The napier Report will soon be yesterdays news but lets hope a big fat pay out goes to Graham Power and whislt I am at it Reg's Skips too..........another case of bully boy tactics.........

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  43. Dear VFC

    How ridiculous is all of this in 2010?

    hWe are being forced to behave as if we are some kind of resistance, with email acting like secret radio messages.

    Why are we putting up with this?

    Stuart is so correct in his assertion that we are living in a fascist dictatorship and his case is an example of this in action.

    At what point is Stephen Baker going to be called to account for his clear professional misconduct? How can he be objective as both investigator and prosecutor (with his professional reputation and related financial reward dependent on his success)??

    When will the ordinary citizens of Jersey wake up to the fact that they are being led willingly by the nose to their demise?

    I despair!!!

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  44. Posted on Channelonline, will be interested to see if it is published!

    "So Phil, Bob Hill is a legend in his own back garden eh?

    Jersey is not even a back garden in global terms, it barely rates as a patio. Bob Hill has consistently and solidly taken the the powers that be to task and held them to account. We should all be grateful to him (unless that is we benefit from having something to hide!)"

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  45. Dear VFC

    Just want to give Bob Hill a great big hug and say thank you. That's all.

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  46. VFC

    Getting late, going to bed now, guess there wont be much more news tonight.

    Thanks for today, you were like a news feed, keeping us up to date when the accredited media were struggling.

    Appreciate it, a good day for Citizen media and all credit to Deputy Hill who is a cool dude playing the perfect hand! Pity the chief minister hasn't the same wisdom.

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  47. "In his 7 years as Hertfordshire chief executive he guided the council to the top of the government tree.
    Besides steering the council through ground breaking people focused initiatives like the creation of our children, schools and families and adult care services centre, he played a major role in building partnerships with the county's other agencies and voluntary organisations to provide better services....Jersey wll benefit from his skills and experience..."

    WHO was that man?
    Quotes from the Local Government Chronicle in January 2003.

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  48. We must all remember this:

    Jersey's Chief Minister says States chief executive Bill Ogley had nothing to do with ordering Operation Blast, the covert police investigation into States Members private lives.

    Asked a question in the House by Deputy Trevor Pitman this morning, Senator Terry Le Sueur says he had received an assurance from Mr Ogley and he was satisfied he had no involvment in the controversial operation.

    He did add that if the current review showed otherwise, Mr Ogley could be suspended.

    source

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  49. It all appears to have gone terribly quiet considering the embargo was due to be lifted at 09.00 this morning. I have been scouring the net since 09.01 expecting it to make an appearance somewhere, but to no avail. Has anyone seen this long awaited document yet. Also, does anyone know how Stuart got on this morning.

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  50. "Syvret was so wrong to name and shame people on the basis of heresay because at the end of teh day he too is not immune from following due process, the namimng of that nurse will be his downfall"

    Anonymous. I fear that you are not in possession of the facts.

    He did not name the nurse on the basis of hearsay. Stuart possessed a copy of the police file which contained first-hand accounts in statements from eye-witnesses. Such was the strength of the evidence that the investigating officer recommended that the initial investigation be widened considerably to look into more serious allegations of murder and attempted murder.

    Now, I, you nor Stuart knows whether the allegations were true. The only way of discovering that would be to investigate the matter properly.

    Sadly, this investigation was, for reasons unknown and against the recommendations of an experienced officer, not pursued - despite the insistence of Stuart Syvret as a politician.

    Only when it was clear that the case was being buried did Stuart believe that it was in the publics' interest to be made aware of; not only of the allegations, but of the perverse decision to pull the plug on the investigation.

    I hope that clears up the fog a bit and explains why we are where we are.

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  51. Stuart has updated his blog. I too would like to know if the Napier report has been published if so where can I find it?

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  52. Napier is here:

    http://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20Napier%20Report%20Police%2020101008.pdf

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